From: "Daniel da Veiga" <danieldaveiga@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Is GWN dead?
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 23:27:10 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <342e1090801111827q758dc008xf540f3d7a249d017@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4788260E.4040306@gmail.com>
On Jan 11, 2008 11:29 PM, b.n. <brullonulla@gmail.com> wrote:
> Alan McKinnon ha scritto:
>
> > Gentoo is NOT "plug in and go", it is a complex scheme that allows you
> > to build other distros.
>
> Exactly.
> Moreover, I'd go on to say that the fact Gentoo is installable from
> almost every reasonable Linux-based live cd is a defining Gentoo
> feature. The real Gentoo installer is the combination of the tarball
> (the data) and the manual (the algorithms).
>
> The fact that an "official" Gentoo live cd exists is just a happy gift
> from developers, and a way to guarantee that there is a reference
> environment from which Gentoo can be installed.
>
> While nearly every other distro requires its own live cd installer,
> Gentoo (or any Gentoo-like system) requires just a working live cd and a
> stage tarball. From there, you go. It's *you* that decide *your*
> installation environment, depending on *your* needs. I used Knoppix
> once, and Kubuntu another; I think I've never used the "official" Gentoo CD.
>
True. I may be going OT here, but I think that another feature is that
when you realise you can install Gentoo from any working environment
with basic support, you expect people to think "out of the box".
Sincerely, that's something the world is desperatly in need. Linux by
itself is "Darwinist" [1]. People need to get more knowledge to make
it suits their needs or enhance performance. My whole experience with
Gentoo, command line and deep system configuration makes it a breeze
to deal with any distro out there. That's what make this community one
(if not THE) best knowledge base I've ever seen.
[1] http://www.meiobit.com/a_principal_vantagem_do_linux_e_ser_darwinista
[in portuguese]
--
Daniel da Veiga
Filosofia de TI: Programadores de verdade consideram o conceito "o que
você vê é o que você tem" tão ruim em editores de texto quanto em
mulheres. Não, o programador de verdade quer um editor de texto do
estilo "você pediu, você levou" - complicado, indecifrável, poderoso,
impiedoso, perigoso.
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Thread overview: 165+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-01-11 8:27 [gentoo-user] Is GWN dead? Shaochun Wang
2008-01-11 8:37 ` Daniel Pielmeier
2008-01-11 8:58 ` Pongracz Istvan
2008-01-11 9:12 ` Shaochun Wang
2008-01-11 9:22 ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-14 2:12 ` Iain Buchanan
2008-01-14 22:33 ` Walter Dnes
2008-01-11 9:35 ` Daniel Pielmeier
2008-01-11 10:06 ` [gentoo-user] " Michael Schmarck
2008-01-11 10:24 ` [gentoo-user] Install CD (was: Is GWN dead?) Dirk Heinrichs
2008-01-11 9:38 ` [gentoo-user] Is GWN dead? Dirk Heinrichs
2008-01-11 9:50 ` Dale
2008-01-11 10:07 ` Galevsky
2008-01-11 10:19 ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-11 10:38 ` Dale
2008-01-11 13:17 ` Qian Qiao
2008-01-11 13:35 ` Dale
2008-01-11 13:46 ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-11 14:14 ` Qian Qiao
2008-01-11 23:18 ` Dale
2008-01-12 0:16 ` [gentoo-user] HTML vs. Text messages (WAS: Is GWN dead?) Hal Martin
2008-01-12 0:25 ` Qian Qiao
2008-01-12 10:16 ` Mick
2008-01-12 11:33 ` Dale
2008-01-12 11:42 ` Neil Bothwick
2008-01-12 11:59 ` Mick
2008-01-12 13:26 ` Dale
2008-01-12 14:38 ` Mick
2008-01-11 13:48 ` [gentoo-user] Is GWN dead? Neil Bothwick
2008-01-11 14:02 ` Etaoin Shrdlu
2008-01-17 7:34 ` [gentoo-user] " Thufir
2008-01-17 9:09 ` Dale
2008-01-11 10:45 ` [gentoo-user] " Galevsky
2008-01-11 13:40 ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-11 13:58 ` Daniel da Veiga
2008-01-17 7:33 ` [gentoo-user] " Thufir
2008-01-17 8:44 ` Michael Schmarck
2008-01-18 7:36 ` Thufir
2008-01-11 10:21 ` [gentoo-user] " Norman Rieß
2008-01-11 10:30 ` Daniel Pielmeier
2008-01-11 10:50 ` Galevsky
2008-01-11 11:30 ` Pongracz Istvan
2008-01-17 7:31 ` [gentoo-user] " Thufir
2008-01-12 19:59 ` James
2008-01-12 20:04 ` Kenneth Prugh
2008-01-12 20:20 ` Michael Schmarck
2008-01-12 21:12 ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2008-01-17 7:27 ` Thufir
2008-01-17 9:57 ` Neil Bothwick
2008-01-11 19:09 ` Michael Schmarck
2008-01-11 19:19 ` Norman Rieß
2008-01-12 20:19 ` [gentoo-user] " Michael Schmarck
2008-01-13 0:36 ` b.n.
2008-01-13 8:39 ` Pongracz Istvan
2008-01-13 11:30 ` Norman Rieß
2008-01-13 15:03 ` [gentoo-user] " Michael Schmarck
2008-01-13 15:39 ` Norman Rieß
2008-01-11 22:14 ` [gentoo-user] " Hal Martin
2008-01-11 22:35 ` Qian Qiao
2008-01-12 0:25 ` Dale
2008-01-11 13:43 ` Michael Schmarck
2008-01-11 10:02 ` Michael Schmarck
2008-01-11 10:29 ` Galevsky
2008-01-11 19:08 ` [gentoo-user] " Michael Schmarck
2008-01-11 22:31 ` Galevsky
2008-01-11 22:52 ` Qian Qiao
2008-01-11 23:13 ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-12 2:29 ` b.n.
2008-01-12 2:27 ` Daniel da Veiga [this message]
2008-01-12 11:50 ` Neil Bothwick
2008-01-15 19:20 ` Eric Martin
2008-01-15 19:48 ` [gentoo-user] gentoo>=sabayon+genkernel Δημήτριος Ροπόκης
2008-01-15 20:48 ` [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Is GWN dead? Alan McKinnon
2008-01-15 22:12 ` Mark Knecht
2008-01-12 20:07 ` [gentoo-user] " Michael Schmarck
2008-01-11 11:41 ` [gentoo-user] Gentoo Install CD : was " Philip Webb
2008-01-11 13:35 ` Neil Bothwick
2008-01-14 10:41 ` [gentoo-user] " Thufir
2008-01-11 12:15 ` [gentoo-user] " David Relson
2008-01-11 13:25 ` Eddie Mihalow Jr
2008-01-11 14:09 ` Galevsky
2008-01-11 14:33 ` Qian Qiao
2008-01-17 7:19 ` Thufir
2008-01-17 8:10 ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-17 9:14 ` Dale
2008-01-18 7:41 ` Thufir
2008-01-17 10:00 ` Neil Bothwick
2008-01-18 7:43 ` Thufir
2008-01-18 8:25 ` [gentoo-user] q: how to make gentoo site sync for greek users Δημήτριος Ροπόκης
2008-01-18 18:12 ` Mick
2008-01-18 14:04 ` [gentoo-user] Re: Is GWN dead? Alan McKinnon
2008-01-18 18:46 ` Thufir
2008-01-18 19:06 ` Lowe Schmidt
2008-01-20 8:38 ` Thufir
2008-01-11 14:53 ` [gentoo-user] " Michael Schmarck
2008-01-11 15:54 ` Daniel da Veiga
2008-01-11 19:03 ` [gentoo-user] " Michael Schmarck
2008-01-11 16:34 ` Eddie Mihalow Jr
2008-01-11 14:38 ` YoYo Siska
2008-01-11 16:36 ` Eddie Mihalow Jr
2008-01-12 19:18 ` David Relson
2008-01-12 21:16 ` Qian Qiao
2008-01-13 8:53 ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-13 11:47 ` Norman Rieß
2008-01-13 12:35 ` b.n.
2008-01-13 12:56 ` Norman Rieß
2008-01-13 13:32 ` Dale
2008-01-13 14:15 ` Neil Bothwick
2008-01-13 15:00 ` [gentoo-user] " Michael Schmarck
2008-01-13 15:35 ` Dale
2008-01-13 16:35 ` Neil Bothwick
2008-01-13 19:24 ` [gentoo-user] " Michael Schmarck
2008-01-13 19:38 ` Neil Bothwick
2008-01-13 20:24 ` Qian Qiao
2008-01-14 12:24 ` [gentoo-user] " Michael Schmarck
2008-01-13 21:35 ` [gentoo-user] " Galevsky
2008-01-14 0:19 ` b.n.
2008-01-14 10:07 ` Galevsky
2008-01-14 16:54 ` b.n.
2008-01-14 16:53 ` Galevsky
2008-01-17 7:43 ` [gentoo-user] " Thufir
2008-01-13 15:02 ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-13 15:41 ` Norman Rieß
2008-01-13 13:58 ` Eddie Mihalow Jr
2008-01-14 5:16 ` Shaochun Wang
2008-01-14 11:24 ` Eddie Mihalow Jr
2008-01-11 14:01 ` Qian Qiao
2008-01-11 16:45 ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-12 20:52 ` James
2008-01-12 21:29 ` Mark Knecht
2008-01-13 8:56 ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-13 9:08 ` Dirk Heinrichs
2008-01-13 10:14 ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-13 20:44 ` Dirk Heinrichs
2008-01-13 11:04 ` Neil Bothwick
2008-01-13 20:46 ` Dirk Heinrichs
2008-01-13 20:55 ` Neil Bothwick
2008-01-13 19:28 ` Etaoin Shrdlu
2008-01-13 20:51 ` Dirk Heinrichs
2008-01-14 9:48 ` Etaoin Shrdlu
2008-01-14 10:23 ` Bo Ørsted Andresen
2008-01-14 18:47 ` Benno Schulenberg
2008-01-14 21:46 ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-13 9:06 ` Michael Schmarck
2008-01-13 12:06 ` b.n.
2008-01-13 14:17 ` Neil Bothwick
2008-01-13 14:53 ` [gentoo-user] " Michael Schmarck
2008-01-13 16:29 ` Neil Bothwick
2008-01-13 16:46 ` Ken Gypen
2008-01-13 18:03 ` Pongracz Istvan
2008-01-13 18:22 ` Galevsky
2008-01-13 19:03 ` Pongracz Istvan
2008-01-13 19:26 ` Galevsky
2008-01-13 19:15 ` Mark Knecht
2008-01-13 19:26 ` Neil Bothwick
2008-01-13 20:09 ` Mark Knecht
2008-01-14 0:27 ` b.n.
2008-01-14 7:22 ` Pongracz Istvan
2008-01-14 9:17 ` Neil Bothwick
2008-01-14 9:39 ` Cocoy Dayao
2008-01-14 10:17 ` Galevsky
2008-01-14 10:09 ` Galevsky
2008-01-14 10:36 ` [gentoo-user] " Thufir
2008-01-13 19:20 ` [gentoo-user] Re: " Michael Schmarck
2008-01-13 19:24 ` Neil Bothwick
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