From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IkhWK-0006pV-OT for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 14:47:45 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.1/8.14.0) with SMTP id l9OEjvpn003280; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 14:45:57 GMT Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.187]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.1/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l9OEfJ5e030346 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 14:41:20 GMT Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b22so169758rvf for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 07:41:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=N+v3TZIW6lbLRCO0S2A/ZTTJOXkExHV7PPp8AvcdHtM=; b=RGsq9NhyVhasvdAa65nunP87+OfH6Z0/rAsVt5fknlOuV+RMUEyjwkMccnaVvsPkYShhwzGppdUZ4TAzWGMM9N117offKssMxUMqwlTJzkWN1BE1kjFQD8q0UCzcIYZfc9WTDIJyqJ8VKk8H4XhKJMGWs+F03KdqklHc9c6m8iI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=pufn6wRw7a3NL9Gxw6mDli8EMdPZlDt5mgCTHLHcHJxOUMk4WwpIWLSyC2k6d63yaMko0v6cqWMq87Uo3lfV91f9mw8oy9vS1ao+4zGZyCUh5z3zST1RUblrG5+a9lYCus70ZWdKxJuiu+/rKCDniwrI8PN+Ck0eQwMNttumrTs= Received: by 10.140.177.15 with SMTP id z15mr308958rve.1193236878619; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 07:41:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.135.3 with HTTP; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 07:41:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <342e1090710240741y9cddf56w76e502f1fabfc38@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:41:18 -0300 From: "Daniel da Veiga" To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Pinging two devices on the same IP address In-Reply-To: Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <200710232203.32668.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> <342e1090710231427r70f89d6pdf102430fe2133fe@mail.gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: df2061c9-ac87-4a81-8370-5c63223f4583 X-Archives-Hash: e41b198b44443484cf8a9744e6c2e00f On 10/24/07, Stroller wrote: > > On 23 Oct 2007, at 22:27, Daniel da Veiga wrote: > > ... > > I really don't get how you forward something to an Access Point, isn't > > this device like a "dumb hub" on your wireless network? Mine doesn't > > have an IP, nor MAC or anything that could identify it on the network. > > You're making assumptions that all APs are like your own. > > Your AP would appear to be operating as a transparent network bridge, > but others operate as NAT routers. And a device operating as a "dumb" > bridge can still have MAC & IP addresses assigned to it, should the > manufacturer wish. I'm actually a little surprised to hear that yours > doesn't - how does one change the SSID & wireless encryption key, if > the AP has no IP address to connect to? > Simple home APs act just like that, no address for configs or anything, just a bridge to another network. These devices have no config at all, they simply create an SSID with no encryption to a wired network. What he got is a WIRELESS ROUTER that acts like an Access Point, providing a gateway and forwarding, linked to another router. I could have guessed, but there was no info about that in his first post, so I just guessed it was a simple Access Point. --=20 Daniel da Veiga Filosofia de TI: Programadores de verdade consideram o conceito "o que voc=EA v=EA =E9 o que voc=EA tem" t=E3o ruim em editores de texto quanto em mulheres. N=E3o, o programador de verdade quer um editor de texto do estilo "voc=EA pediu, voc=EA levou" - complicado, indecifr=E1vel, poderoso, impiedoso, perigoso. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list