From: "Daniel da Veiga" <danieldaveiga@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Things that can be improved
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2006 18:11:49 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <342e1090607071411o26d648adu4bfa2a56bc284c5c@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <44AEB475.8000702@maestroprogramador.com>
On 7/7/06, Rafael Fernández López <info@maestroprogramador.com> wrote:
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> Hi,
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> This is not flame war. I love Gentoo, and it is the distribution that
> fits me perfectly, but I've been wondering this last year what things
> can be improved in this wonderful distro.
>
> The first thing that I'd change is "etc-update" or "dispatch-conf". I'd
> suggest to create some kind of tool like "dpkg-reconfigure" in Debian.
> More intuitive than reading /etc files and writing them by hand that is
> more probably to be mistaken when writing.
This has been already discussed in the list, and a good discussion
too. There are tools that do the job better/faster for someone's
opinnion (not mine, I still like etc-update). You can choose that
tools, I don't know Debian, but I doubt a combination of all tools
mentioned at that thread would not come close to what you want.
>
> Second thing that I'd improve is a security one. I know that "emerge"
> is a very cared package, but it is a script. Suppose that someone
> commits portage with a emerge failure in its code (he forgot a comma
> !!)... if someone updates portage won't be able to update it again
> because it will fail ever and ever again... So I suggest to have a
> backuped emerge script that we are sure that worked (like the last
> emerge tool that was used), and if the new emerge tool is mistaken (so
> that user doesn't need to know python) only has to run "regenemerge" for
> example, and will have the latest emerge working tool.
>
There are SO MANY ways to recover portage. A snapshot, a binary
package. If you run stable, its almost impossible, to say the least,
that you're gonna get a trivial error in emerge that prevents it from
running, if you run testing, still, gentoo devs are responsable people
and would not do something like that. If we count with that kind of
error, your "regenemerge" command would have to redownload and compile
python, portagem, pycrypt, gcc, glibc and a lot of other packages that
emerge depends on. You can always "quickpkg portage" once in a while,
but any portage snapshot untared at / would recover most of portage
for you.
No flames intended, I just say there are ways to do all this
already... But you still can post a feature request anytime.
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Daniel da Veiga
Computer Operator - RS - Brazil
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Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-07-07 19:22 [gentoo-user] Things that can be improved Rafael Fernández López
2006-07-07 20:34 ` gentuxx
2006-07-07 21:11 ` Daniel da Veiga [this message]
2006-07-07 21:12 ` Richard Fish
2006-07-07 21:31 ` Daniel da Veiga
2006-07-07 21:42 ` [gentoo-user] " dnlt0hn5ntzhbqkv51
2006-07-07 21:46 ` [gentoo-user] " leszek
2006-07-07 23:00 ` Daniel Iliev
2006-07-08 0:34 ` Richard Fish
2006-07-08 1:37 ` Daniel Iliev
2006-07-11 1:32 ` Dale
2006-07-08 7:25 ` Justin R Findlay
2006-07-08 14:42 ` Daniel Iliev
2006-07-08 17:59 ` Justin R Findlay
2006-07-08 9:27 ` Neil Bothwick
2006-07-08 14:45 ` Daniel Iliev
2006-07-08 22:15 ` Ryan Tandy
2006-07-09 2:16 ` [gentoo-user][OT]Things " Daniel Iliev
2006-07-09 2:46 ` [gentoo-user]MPlayer: CPU Detection? (was: [OT]Things that can be improved) Ryan Tandy
2006-07-09 3:41 ` [gentoo-user]MPlayer: CPU Detection? Daniel Iliev
2006-07-09 4:40 ` Ryan Tandy
2006-07-09 13:25 ` [gentoo-user][OT]MPlayer: " Daniel Iliev
2006-07-07 21:37 ` [gentoo-user] Things that can be improved Hemmann, Volker Armin
2006-07-08 2:23 ` Zac Medico
2006-07-08 8:00 ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2006-07-08 9:31 ` Neil Bothwick
2006-07-08 20:32 ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2006-07-08 21:00 ` Neil Bothwick
2006-07-08 21:10 ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2006-07-08 22:25 ` Neil Bothwick
2006-07-08 0:47 ` Lord Sauron
2006-07-08 1:09 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-07-08 3:54 ` Lord Sauron
2006-07-08 2:20 ` Zac Medico
2006-07-08 2:49 ` Richard Fish
2006-07-08 4:00 ` Lord Sauron
2006-07-08 4:14 ` Richard Fish
2006-07-08 4:18 ` Lord Sauron
2006-07-08 4:38 ` Zac Medico
2006-07-08 4:44 ` Lord Sauron
2006-07-08 18:24 ` Alexander Skwar
2006-07-08 12:28 ` Rafael Fernández López
2006-07-08 15:02 ` Daniel Iliev
2006-07-08 18:30 ` Alexander Skwar
2006-07-08 19:03 ` Neil Bothwick
2006-07-08 21:03 ` Rafael Fernández López
2006-07-09 15:18 ` Alexander Skwar
2006-07-09 17:47 ` Neil Bothwick
2006-07-09 18:18 ` Alexander Skwar
2006-07-09 21:45 ` Neil Bothwick
2006-07-11 17:22 ` Devon Miller
2006-07-09 15:21 ` Alexander Skwar
2006-07-09 22:46 ` kashani
2006-07-08 18:15 ` Alexander Skwar
2006-07-08 18:18 ` Alexander Skwar
2006-07-08 20:37 ` Walter Dnes
2006-07-08 20:59 ` Gerhard Hoogterp
2006-07-08 22:26 ` Neil Bothwick
2006-07-09 15:29 ` Alexander Skwar
2006-07-09 15:53 ` David Dalrymple
2006-07-09 16:03 ` Jeremy Olexa
2006-07-10 0:47 ` David Dalrymple
2006-07-09 16:26 ` Alexander Skwar
2006-07-09 17:26 ` Etaoin Shrdlu
2006-07-09 18:50 ` Gerhard Hoogterp
2006-07-09 19:20 ` Alexander Skwar
2006-07-11 11:05 ` Walter Dnes
2006-07-11 11:09 ` Alexander Skwar
2006-07-11 15:07 ` Dale
2006-07-11 16:26 ` Ryan Tandy
2006-07-11 16:35 ` Daniel da Veiga
2006-07-11 19:07 ` Gerhard Hoogterp
2006-07-11 19:56 ` Alexander Skwar
2006-07-11 20:33 ` Allan Gottlieb
2006-07-11 21:01 ` Dale
2006-07-11 23:43 ` Allan Gottlieb
2006-07-11 21:14 ` Benno Schulenberg
2006-07-11 20:30 ` Hans-Werner Hilse
2006-07-09 15:25 ` Alexander Skwar
2006-07-12 0:12 ` David Corbin
2006-07-12 2:21 ` Richard Fish
2006-07-27 13:34 ` Enrico Weigelt
2006-07-27 14:05 ` Neil Bothwick
2006-07-28 7:41 ` [gentoo-user] " Remy Blank
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