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* [gentoo-user] Hello
@ 2006-03-07  6:53 A.R.S. KA9QLQ Alvin Koffman
  2006-03-07 14:51 ` [gentoo-user] Hello Harry Putnam
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  0 siblings, 3 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: A.R.S. KA9QLQ Alvin Koffman @ 2006-03-07  6:53 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

I looked at gentoo about 2 years back when I wanted to switch from
Mandrake, I went with Mepis and realy liked 3.3 but 3.4-3 doesn't seem as
good. Don't like how they changed the reopositories. So I thought I'd look
to gentoo again, and am please to see they're really making progress.
Looks like there's a live cd with a graphical install from what I've read.


I remember asking about a graphical frountend [like synaptit in Mepis] and
was told "we're working on it." How's it coming?

I see it still leans heavly on Gnome but a KDE version is on it's way,
that will help with popularity. 

I have a Celleron 2.9 gig 80 gig hd X 2 and 160 gig sata Diamond Stealth
P90 nvidia fx 5200 video, and winsurf tv card that likes to lock my systom
up grrrr and dsl. 

Will the dvd have a ton of stuff? I see the live cd is only 200 meg, that
seems kinda small. Be nice to see xvkbd in it for people who can't use
their hands well.
Just wondering.
Alvin

For the best jerky you've ever had go to
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My home page
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* [gentoo-user]  Re: Hello
  2006-03-07  6:53 [gentoo-user] Hello A.R.S. KA9QLQ Alvin Koffman
@ 2006-03-07 14:51 ` Harry Putnam
  2006-03-07 22:24   ` A.R.S. KA9QLQ Alvin Koffman
  2006-03-07 15:24 ` Daniel da Veiga
  2006-03-07 17:05 ` [gentoo-user] Hello Ghaith Hachem
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Harry Putnam @ 2006-03-07 14:51 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

"A.R.S. KA9QLQ Alvin Koffman" <alvin_ka9qlq@yahoo.com> writes:

> Will the dvd have a ton of stuff? I see the live cd is only 200 meg, that
> seems kinda small. Be nice to see xvkbd in it for people who can't use
> their hands well.
> Just wondering.
> Alvin

In gentoo the install cds are not a full on snapshot of all
installable stuff.
They contain the basic system in a few different configurations called
stages.  Current practice I believe is to use stage-3 even though
others may be there.

You are expected to have a working basic install first then you can
get the portage tree (all the goodies you are asking about) installed
and updated fairly effortlessly.

Installation is well covered on gentoo.org under a documentation link
with Installation in the title (don't remember off hand exact name)
Browse thru that a bit and you'll have an idea how to do it.

Its not the same as binary distributions like Fedora, mandrake etc.
There are no ready made packages to just stick in other than the base
install (stage-3).  Every thing is compiled on gentoo.  But it is
automated and pretty easy to follow.

Some things you may want to install like a full KDE install can take a
very long time to compile... so be warned. 

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* [gentoo-user] Re: Hello
  2006-03-07  6:53 [gentoo-user] Hello A.R.S. KA9QLQ Alvin Koffman
  2006-03-07 14:51 ` [gentoo-user] Hello Harry Putnam
@ 2006-03-07 15:24 ` Daniel da Veiga
  2006-03-07 17:05 ` [gentoo-user] Hello Ghaith Hachem
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Daniel da Veiga @ 2006-03-07 15:24 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

On 3/6/06, A.R.S. KA9QLQ Alvin Koffman <alvin_ka9qlq@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I looked at gentoo about 2 years back when I wanted to switch from
> Mandrake, I went with Mepis and realy liked 3.3 but 3.4-3 doesn't seem as
> good. Don't like how they changed the reopositories. So I thought I'd look
> to gentoo again, and am please to see they're really making progress.
> Looks like there's a live cd with a graphical install from what I've read.
>

Yeah, I tried it this weekend, damn good if you ask me. I tried an
alternative way it provides, creating the stage3 dynamic with the
packages in the livecd. 2 hours and I got a full working environment
with X and all the stuff... 1 day later it was all configured and
updated...

>
> I remember asking about a graphical frountend [like synaptit in Mepis] and
> was told "we're working on it." How's it coming?

Never heard of it, but I kinda like emerge command line style.

>
> I see it still leans heavly on Gnome but a KDE version is on it's way,
> that will help with popularity.

I hate KDE (MHO, no flames please), but you're right, anyway, I guess
you don't need kde for a graphical installer interface, I mean, Gnome
loads in half the time and provides you what you need (don't get me
wrong, Im a fluxbox user, so I hate Gnome as well).

>
> I have a Celleron 2.9 gig 80 gig hd X 2 and 160 gig sata Diamond Stealth
> P90 nvidia fx 5200 video, and winsurf tv card that likes to lock my systom
> up grrrr and dsl.
>
> Will the dvd have a ton of stuff? I see the live cd is only 200 meg, that
> seems kinda small. Be nice to see xvkbd in it for people who can't use
> their hands well.

I bet the LiveDVD will be awesome, I wonder if it will come with all
the packages binaries updated, damn good for new installs, In about 3
hours you get a full working environment and start working while
portage 15 nicened update everything else in the background.

> Just wondering.
> Alvin
>
> For the best jerky you've ever had go to
> http://alk.jerkydirect.com/
> My home page
> http://ka9qlq.tripod.com
> This PC is windows free with Mepis Linux 3.4-3
> http://www.mepis.org/
> 1(747)632-4973 SIP
> Get Gizmo 1 cent per minuet calling
> http://www.gizmoproject.com/
> --
> gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
>
>


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* Re: [gentoo-user] Hello
  2006-03-07  6:53 [gentoo-user] Hello A.R.S. KA9QLQ Alvin Koffman
  2006-03-07 14:51 ` [gentoo-user] Hello Harry Putnam
  2006-03-07 15:24 ` Daniel da Veiga
@ 2006-03-07 17:05 ` Ghaith Hachem
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Ghaith Hachem @ 2006-03-07 17:05 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

On 3/7/06, A.R.S. KA9QLQ Alvin Koffman <alvin_ka9qlq@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I remember asking about a graphical frountend [like synaptit in Mepis] and
> was told "we're working on it." How's it coming?

take a look at porthole it's in portage

$ eix porthole
* app-portage/porthole
     Available versions:  0.4.1 0.5.0
     Installed:           0.5.0
     Homepage:            http://porthole.sourceforge.net
     Description:         A GTK+-based frontend to Portage


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* Re: [gentoo-user]  Re: Hello
  2006-03-07 14:51 ` [gentoo-user] Hello Harry Putnam
@ 2006-03-07 22:24   ` A.R.S. KA9QLQ Alvin Koffman
  2006-03-08  1:56     ` Daniel da Veiga
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: A.R.S. KA9QLQ Alvin Koffman @ 2006-03-07 22:24 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

Thanks for the replies guys. I like porthole. I redownloaded the iso [the
size was just was just wrong] butnd the cd, rebooted. Everything seemed
good as the systom loaded and the icons ticked off then just as Gnome
should have appered the monitor said "no video signal" and went into
powersaver mode. I guess Gentoo isn't quite upto the hardware detection
yet. BTW it's an Emachines flat pannel w/ a diamond stealth P90 nvida fx
5200 chip.
Alvin

For the best jerky you've ever had go to
http://alk.jerkydirect.com/
My home page
http://ka9qlq.tripod.com
This PC is windows free with Mepis Linux 3.4-3
http://www.mepis.org/
1(747)632-4973 SIP 
Get Gizmo 1 cent per minuet calling
http://www.gizmoproject.com/
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hello
  2006-03-07 22:24   ` A.R.S. KA9QLQ Alvin Koffman
@ 2006-03-08  1:56     ` Daniel da Veiga
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Daniel da Veiga @ 2006-03-08  1:56 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

On 3/7/06, A.R.S. KA9QLQ Alvin Koffman <alvin_ka9qlq@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Thanks for the replies guys. I like porthole. I redownloaded the iso [the
> size was just was just wrong] butnd the cd, rebooted. Everything seemed
> good as the systom loaded and the icons ticked off then just as Gnome
> should have appered the monitor said "no video signal" and went into
> powersaver mode. I guess Gentoo isn't quite upto the hardware detection
> yet. BTW it's an Emachines flat pannel w/ a diamond stealth P90 nvida fx
> 5200 chip.

Use CTRL+ALT+F1 to switch to a console and use the command line
installer, its as good as the GTK one. You can even try to fix this
editing the configuration for X.

> Alvin
>
> For the best jerky you've ever had go to
> http://alk.jerkydirect.com/
> My home page
> http://ka9qlq.tripod.com
> This PC is windows free with Mepis Linux 3.4-3
> http://www.mepis.org/
> 1(747)632-4973 SIP
> Get Gizmo 1 cent per minuet calling
> http://www.gizmoproject.com/
> --
> gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
>
>


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Daniel da Veiga
Computer Operator - RS - Brazil
-----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK-----
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PS PE Y PGP- t+ 5 X+++ R+* tv b+ DI+++ D+ G+ e h+ r+ y++
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