From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1EeevH-00087F-Hj for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 22 Nov 2005 20:39:27 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id jAMKcSJv000986; Tue, 22 Nov 2005 20:38:28 GMT Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.202]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id jAMKYUHp012199 for ; Tue, 22 Nov 2005 20:34:31 GMT Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id r21so2073316wxc for ; Tue, 22 Nov 2005 12:34:30 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=VIcPcLoqvrnlQZUvIMV7OaJsYc+B8TEPksVNBAhd4JBm6/p5A9KX/3wk/pbzjXLlxw9zHezxPtwHSAGnuEpmIcMCF9UR2T9QhxHNk9l6NfHtcKjP0pEiLDETtINoC+gagWVVv2asBVIZK7KRqPo2rbIp+sqIbHWLWAXfAcZ6L9A= Received: by 10.65.103.12 with SMTP id f12mr5115704qbm; Tue, 22 Nov 2005 12:34:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.250.4 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Nov 2005 12:34:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <342e1090511221234g52c4e699tcddd83f159122cd2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 18:34:29 -0200 From: Daniel da Veiga To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: default stage3 (was : [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo still on the right path?) In-Reply-To: <438366FE.9090204@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <8aaf1ee00511210433s6d23e8a6l6d95c9c2f2ed8b7d@mail.gmail.com> <200511211413.14160.volker.armin.hemmann@tu-clausthal.de> <43821DEC.10805@badapple.net> <200511221926.08306.volker.armin.hemmann@tu-clausthal.de> <438366FE.9090204@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by robin.gentoo.org id jAMKYUHp012199 X-Archives-Salt: 4601fab2-e87c-4e0f-a36b-468c4b084029 X-Archives-Hash: ae8f98995615969dd5e4c13edeeb54e6 On 11/22/05, Nagatoro wrote: > Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: > >>Therefore we can deduce that anyone who wants a harder install is a > >>hobbyist, dilettante, and a dabbler. > > > > no, I want an installation, that filters out everybody too dumb to read the > > fucking manual. > > Or the FAQ? Where it's described how to do a stage1/2 equivalent install > from a stage3. Gentoo is widely documented, and if you can read, most answers are already at the wikis, howtos, gentoo docs and mailing lists, add to this the foruns and user groups. Gentoo has a knowledge base that can make you solve most problems, of course, if its one of those HARD issues, you can always ask, but then again, those are 10% (if all of that) from our traffic. So, yes, the install was a "how to read and follow the manual" teaching, and stage3 is easier and taught less than stage1, but hey, its faster and have less side effects, and besides, if you can get a stage1 from a stage3, who cares?! But again, we'll have lots of RTFM and STFW in our foruns and mailing lists... If you can find the manual page, don't give them the solutions, give the link instead, teaching someone how to fish feeds for a lifetime, giving someone the fish itself only feed once. > -- > Naga > -- > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > > -- Daniel da Veiga Computer Operator - RS - Brazil -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GCM/IT/P/O d-? s:- a? C++$ UBLA++ P+ L++ E--- W+++$ N o+ K- w O M- V- PS PE Y PGP- t+ 5 X+++ R+* tv b+ DI+++ D+ G+ e h+ r+ y++ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list