From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DuHU7-0000tT-FM for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2005 22:19:43 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with SMTP id j6HMI4TD009184; Sun, 17 Jul 2005 22:18:04 GMT Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.204]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j6HMEUBp000181 for ; Sun, 17 Jul 2005 22:14:30 GMT Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j1so1135061rnf for ; Sun, 17 Jul 2005 15:15:11 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=GJkZwfHTg2LmETEIMYagpdpb8gFF6rZXTcsrIa15aD8h+1k7cJ6hNjxvbs8lR/wnp6ZZkeclvByHm1NIOxGp9i6vb1AmzNr0C7XtUBEAX9mcpMgU/exg0blCyx/yD0NZeDANy5qzd36BELG5aA+4hnUNZnoxz7sl/I6ceZM2Ty0= Received: by 10.38.78.56 with SMTP id a56mr1280159rnb; Sun, 17 Jul 2005 15:15:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.78.42 with HTTP; Sun, 17 Jul 2005 15:15:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <342e10905071715152fd87bd8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 19:15:11 -0300 From: Daniel da Veiga To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] [OT?] Advice on hardware In-Reply-To: <20050717093216.471af8b1@chi.speakeasy.net> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <342e1090507150806161c6f06@mail.gmail.com> <20050715171813.71ea65f2@chi.speakeasy.net> <342e1090507162319726110e0@mail.gmail.com> <42DA0B0B.6090905@gmx.net> <20050717093216.471af8b1@chi.speakeasy.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by robin.gentoo.org id j6HMEUBp000181 X-Archives-Salt: 1745234b-3cb3-48b4-84ba-7ce9357c393b X-Archives-Hash: 2664e9a2728d1089443b993fb81d6882 Well, that's a new advice on motherboards and power suplies, guess I'll chill and read more before getting mine. I have been an Asus user for about 6 years and not many problems, guess we all have to walk to soyo's valley of death to learn more about mobos, I'll research the MSI and DFI mobos for now. Again Bob, thanks for the advice, that was EXACTLY what happened to my power suply, so, I'm considering getting a new one instead of using my fixed one, because it fried exactly in the conditions you mentioned (and I feel better now knowing it wasn't my mistake), that cost me some money and fried some chipset in my mobo, that now turns off by no reason at randomic timed spaces (from 5 seconds to a minute and a half) and that was the main reason for getting a new one. Ok, I am far OT here, so, lets talk about gentoo, some of you have the a8n deluxe, and I wonder how compatible the 8.1 sound, the lan and acpi are with Gentoo, its my default system and right now I don't plan changing it. On 7/17/05, Bob Sanders wrote: > On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 09:38:51 +0200 > Jarry wrote: > > > > If I would like to build a new comp today, I would probably go > > with EpoX, DFI, Gigabyte or MSI motherboards... > > > > Personally, my list would be Epox and Tyan. Though Tyan is pretty > conservative, and the bios doesn't ever seem to work with ATI cards. > > MSI used to be a lot better, but are about the same a DFI now, both > better, IMO, than Asus. > > btw - my recommendation of PC Power & Cooling power supplies is not > because there are no others as good, it's that I've had more fails and seen > more fails with other brands. When looking for a power supply, use PC > Power & Cooling as a reference standard. Make sure the power supply > you're looking at can provide the same sustained currents on +3.3V, +5V, and > +12V as the equivalent PC Power and Cooling. Also, insure the combined > sustained wattage rating of the +3.3V, +5V, and +12V are the same as the > PC Power and Cooling. > > I've been burned more than once by believing online reviews of power supplies. > Sure they work, for awhile, most times, but put them in a real system and you may > find they die on turn-on. Or worse, when the room temp is near 90F and the > system hangs a lot because of voltage sags. > > Or they can't handle the current draw at 90F and overcurrent. Do this a few times > and then the machine never comes back on; because, the power supply just blew > a fuse - it has to go back to the factory to get repaired (yes, you can do it yourself). > > Regardless, don't spend US$300 on a Gfx card then balk at US$100 for a power > supply. You'll have the power supply for 3 yrs and the Gfx card for 1 yr. > > Bob > - > -- > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > > -- Daniel da Veiga Computer Operator - RS - Brazil -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list