From: Michael <confabulate@kintzios.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with detecting ZFS HDD
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2025 11:24:39 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3335789.aeNJFYEL58@rogueboard> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+t6X7ddVLG56RW6Jo_=3eoGUVp0TNRxBnR+Fz_rZae3zhikcg@mail.gmail.com>
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On Thursday 30 January 2025 16:55:00 Greenwich Mean Time gevisz wrote:
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> After setting up one of them as a ZFS mirror, I immediately
> got the problem that if I boot my system with additional HDD
> connected to my computer, one of these ZFS mirror disks
> is not detected and the corresponding zpool appears to be degraded.
>
> I have realized that it was my fault to use /dev/sdb and /dev/sdc
> notations when setting up the ZFS mirror because with more disks
> at the boot time these notations may change.
>
> I should have used /dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WD5000* notations instead!
With ZFS you should probably have used the unique device ID obtained by
running:
lsblk -o name,wwn
My ZFS experience is cursory to know it if makes a material difference, but
according to the Gentoo wiki page this is what OpenZFS prefers:
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/ZFS#Preparing_disk
> Unfortunately, I have not found the way to change these notations
> other than deleting the whole zpool and re-creating it anew with
> the notations /dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WD5000*, which took quite
> a lot of time.
>
> Presumably, the problem with detecting my ZFS mirror HDDs
> should have disappeared after that because now the disks were
> referred to by their ids but unfortunately it was not the case.
>
> When I boot my computer with an additional external HDD
> attached to the computer via USB, one of my ZFS mirror HDDs
> is not detected by the system and the corresponding zpool again
> appears to be degraded until I restart my computer in the usual
> setup, that is, without any additional HDD attached to it.
>
> I have looked into my /dev/disk/by-id/ directory and found out
> that this happens because one of these ZFS mirror HDDs
> does not appear in this directory at all!
When USB drives are plugged in, or the system boots with a USB drive already
plugged in, they may not be detected in the same order against other connected
drives and their logical device name can change e.g. from /dev/sdb to /dev/
sdc.
However, this will not stop a HDD from being detected. Its logical name may
change, but the disk by-id and wwn will not.
> The situation remained the same even after swapping the
> undetected 500GB WD HDD with the one.
>
> So, I wonder if it is a fault of
> 1) refurbished WD HDDs
Run smartctl tests to see what they detect. Any error reported indicates a
hardware problem.
> 2) my almost 20 years old Ultra-Durable Gigabyte motherboard
Try a different SATA port and cable from what you've been using so far to
connect the second hard drive. Either may be faulty.
> 3) the Linux system itself.
Highly unlikely, but booting with a liveUSB will soon confirm this.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-01-31 11:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-01-30 16:55 [gentoo-user] Problem with detecting ZFS HDD gevisz
2025-01-30 17:03 ` [gentoo-user] " gevisz
2025-01-30 21:08 ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Taylor
2025-01-30 22:58 ` gevisz
2025-01-31 0:13 ` Grant Taylor
2025-01-31 11:24 ` Michael [this message]
2025-02-01 0:13 ` gevisz
2025-02-16 16:50 ` Wols Lists
2025-03-02 21:58 ` gevisz
2025-03-03 9:55 ` Michael
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