I'm a total ~ARCH user, just because part of me really loves the joys of debugging. Honestly, on the rare occasion that something doesn't work, I've found a lesson is best learned when it is necessary. So in short, a bug is just a chance to learn to do something slightly differently. Anyway, for a low-spec system, installing from binaries when possible would probably be a good idea. Other than that, just be specific in what you want with your USE flags. On Jan 20, 2009, at 4:16 PM, Nick Cunningham wrote: > > > 2009/1/20 Paul Hartman > On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 2:36 PM, b.n. wrote: > > Mark Knecht ha scritto: > > > >> The one thing I would respectfully suggest is that you carefully > >> build your own portage overlay. My experience with Gentoo over the > >> last few years is that there is a _anxiousness_ in the portage > >> maintainer area to move newer revisions of software into portage > >> quickly and then just as quickly to remove from portage what > users are > >> currently using. > > > > Really? > > > > I am usually a bit annoyed by the contrary. On an almost 1-year old > > Kubuntu (8.04 Hardy Heron) I can find packages that are just > barely x86 > > stable now on Gentoo. > > > > A couple of examples I am aware of: > > Firefox 3: stable just since one month on Gentoo x86, was included > in KB8.04 > > Qtiplot: 0.9.x stable and working on KB8.04, all releases ~x86 > (and a > > hell to compile on a stable system -still didn't manage to do it) > in Gentoo. > > > > Python releases are often behind, and not mentioning KDE 4, which is > > even default on 8.10 Kubuntu and on Gentoo was still hardmasked last > > time I checked (but probably Gentoo is just right in this respect, > > everyone keeps telling me to wait before digging into KDE 4). > > > > I fully understand that there are good reasons for that, and that > the > > meta-distribution status of Gentoo makes harder to check packages > (and > > also that the Ubuntu folks wildly release unstable stuff... > firefox 3 rc > > in 8.04, for example). I just feel that (stable) Gentoo is > actually a > > bit *behind* the average Linux distribution in its revisions of > software. > > > > Most importantly, I also feel that that's something new: when I > first > > installed my system, more than 4 years ago, I felt it was *ahead*. I > > wonder if it's due just to the sheer increase of work required to > test > > packages, or if there are decisions behind that (or if it's just me > > having false memories). > > When I first installed Gentoo a few years ago, I think I switched from > x86 to ~x86 in the first 24 hours, for the very reason. I wanted to > use the newest versions and the "stable" stuff was so old... It seems > the majority of users are using ~arch these days. > > > I see it as a good thing, a sign that Gentoo is maturing beyond just > being a 'ricing' distro. Its now possible to have the best of both > worlds, whether you want the stability of well tested packages from > ARCH, or the chance to get newer packages, but with a chance of bugs > and potential breakage by using ~ARCH. > > Im a happy ~ARCH user myself, and have been for a long time, however > i do stick to using plain ARCH on my little server just to keep it > stable and happy. > > - Nick