From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1QvxUN-0003Kk-A1 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 20:22:23 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id ED07F21C0BA; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 20:22:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ww0-f53.google.com (mail-ww0-f53.google.com [74.125.82.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37ABA21C22A for ; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 20:20:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwf25 with SMTP id 25so498656wwf.10 for ; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 13:20:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:user-agent:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:content-type; bh=X+dwDikHPvWROrlZJhglw9xneK+lomQjxa0LNjlFRpw=; b=ka3zkPE5WB3OwI9MoRDiAuJy1z1ioMPEAuWrMQkTqMsRMh2tSFQ4fyosrL4q1slgiQ 37uiJ4MwsStkyv1+kPoyNZyAE2tIwxZICxb+Tg37XSxhSIG9J/e15M7RntRRFyv0kTPk 04J2EWdvSnH27kum5hvAPbw5VVpOTL6uL3vg0= Received: by 10.227.202.202 with SMTP id ff10mr641993wbb.101.1314130805460; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 13:20:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nazgul.localnet (196-210-153-55.dynamic.isadsl.co.za [196.210.153.55]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 8sm266856wbx.17.2011.08.23.13.20.03 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 23 Aug 2011 13:20:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Alan McKinnon To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] systemd Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 22:19:57 +0200 Message-ID: <3292731.ELGxhL7QDp@nazgul> User-Agent: KMail/4.7.0 (Linux/3.0.3-gentoo; KDE/4.7.0; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: <4E4C2CC4.6080604@xunil.at> <10047113.P4fhB6gBS3@nazgul> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 65408b150118d2ee7ee5a515c9347193 On Tue 23 August 2011 15:50:24 Canek Pel=C3=A1ez Vald=C3=A9s did opine = thusly: > On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 3:43 PM, Alan McKinnon=20 wrote: > > On Tue 23 August 2011 15:06:25 Canek Pel=C3=A1ez Vald=C3=A9s did op= ine=20 thusly: > >> > Now if it had similarities to say hal, I would instantly > >> > understand. But dbus is good and useful in all the ways > >> > that > >> > hal isn't. > >>=20 > >> Wasn't. HAL is dead. From > >> http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/hal > >=20 > > Sadly, HAL is not yet dead. It lives still. > >=20 > > It lives on the production database server I just happen to be > > rebooting as I type this (another story for another time) and > > will continue to live here for a very very long time indeed. > >=20 > > Dale can confirm this. Dale will swear in a court of law with > > hand on bible than hal lives on in zombie form, infesting all > > the matter of his house and computers, infecting them with > > their undead zombieness. > >=20 > > Ye gods, it's been a long hard day.... >=20 > I remember getting rid of HAL in one weekend, from all my computers. > It was a long weekend, but it was not as bad as getting rid of Qt > from all the computers in my office some years ago. Come to my work place, I have the perfect task for you: to excise perl-5.8.0 from all the many machines it's on, plus the=20 atrocious in-house coding using it that no-one left understands, and=20= all running on hardware that no-one can replace. --=20 alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com