From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Qkkis-0004bA-5r for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 23 Jul 2011 22:31:02 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 93B3C21C3BE; Sat, 23 Jul 2011 22:30:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wy0-f181.google.com (mail-wy0-f181.google.com [74.125.82.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6591321C3B5 for ; Sat, 23 Jul 2011 22:28:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyh22 with SMTP id 22so2913744wyh.40 for ; Sat, 23 Jul 2011 15:28:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:user-agent:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:content-type; bh=sgR5BVSZg1Bn0UJMgUvFzMrYclO2IpaWJoCrKxXVL+M=; b=Soehs3oVRKhBCJPKUvVXmTiNSD/qynZj06N74Ti/r1KfFjuE4dLN5oMR1l98mkHjU+ CxpweadAcbzLdMVdLuNWwXjUQkZ+qVACkulOzpfgxB8+fkNM79+OORHziN35usBQ7Vm5 M6VD6oknRjzq/dElszN8W6y7Uii5mjDj1ur2w= Received: by 10.227.42.2 with SMTP id q2mr2535461wbe.19.1311460134587; Sat, 23 Jul 2011 15:28:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nazgul.localnet (196-215-57-66.dynamic.isadsl.co.za [196.215.57.66]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ff6sm3029133wbb.49.2011.07.23.15.28.52 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 23 Jul 2011 15:28:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Alan McKinnon To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo, new computer, still a bit confused Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 00:28:09 +0200 Message-ID: <3220546.QKfQo2ZfgN@nazgul> User-Agent: KMail/4.6.1 (Linux/2.6.39-ck-r1; KDE/4.6.5; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <201107231835.32452.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> References: <4E2A297D.4070709@gmail.com> <20110723174953.22865896@zaphod.digimed.co.uk> <201107231835.32452.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: f1edd3c97a936ef72e54a28aebdc02db On Saturday 23 July 2011 18:35:20 Mick did opine thusly: > On Saturday 23 Jul 2011 17:49:53 Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 10:55:11 -0400, Mike Edenfield wrote: > > > I'm actually speaking from experience here: the first thing > > > I did on my Inspiron was wipe the HD and install Gentoo, > > > only to learn that the wireless card was faulty. And since I > > > could not run the standard Windows diagnostics they couldn't > > > (wouldn't?) help me. > > > > > > So I booted the restore CD, put Windows back, and got a new > > > NIC within about a week. > > > > What would you have done if the hard drive had failed? > > > > I always image the windows disk and then wipe it, but I'm aware > > that this is not completely reliable. some failures make > > restoration impossible. > > Yes, that's why I usually install Gentoo as a dual boot on a new > machine. > > On the other hand, if the drive is dead what is Dell/HP/etc going to > do? Take it apart and run forensics on the platters? They tried that with us once. But only once. They got a response something like "We buy in excess of 5,000 servers from you per year. Are you really going to quibble about one measly notebook drive?" In Dell's defense, I honestly think the rep on the phone was new and recently headhunted away from HP. He hadn't yet been grooved into how stuff really works. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com