[gentoo-user] Anyone using www-apps/jekyll?

[gentoo-user] Anyone using www-apps/jekyll?

[Peter Humphrey]

Hello list,

I wanted to try this package to create a small site for myself, but I'm 
falling at the second hurdle (the first was setting package.env etc to pull in 
ruby26 as well as the currently installed ruby30).

Does anyone have experience with this builder? I'd like to find out where I'm 
going wrong first.

-- 
Regards,
Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone using www-apps/jekyll?

[Andreas K. Huettel]

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Am Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021, 18:11:27 CEST schrieb Peter Humphrey:
> Hello list,
> 
> I wanted to try this package to create a small site for myself, but I'm 
> falling at the second hurdle (the first was setting package.env etc to pull in 
> ruby26 as well as the currently installed ruby30).
> 
> Does anyone have experience with this builder? I'd like to find out where I'm 
> going wrong first.
> 

It's used for www.gentoo.org :)

https://gitweb.gentoo.org/sites/www.git

-- 
Andreas K. Hüttel
dilfridge@gentoo.org
Gentoo Linux developer
(council, toolchain, base-system, perl, libreoffice)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone using www-apps/jekyll?

[Peter Humphrey]

On Thursday, 21 October 2021 21:22:58 BST Andreas K. Huettel wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, 21. Oktober 2021, 18:11:27 CEST schrieb Peter Humphrey:
> > Hello list,
> > 
> > I wanted to try this package to create a small site for myself, but I'm
> > falling at the second hurdle (the first was setting package.env etc to
> > pull in ruby26 as well as the currently installed ruby30).
> > 
> > Does anyone have experience with this builder? I'd like to find out where
> > I'm going wrong first.
> 
> It's used for www.gentoo.org :)
> 
> https://gitweb.gentoo.org/sites/www.git

Well, whaddyaknow?  :)

-- 
Regards,
Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone using www-apps/jekyll?

[Peter Humphrey]

On Thursday, 21 October 2021 17:11:27 BST Peter Humphrey wrote:
> Hello list,
> 
> I wanted to try this package to create a small site for myself, but I'm
> falling at the second hurdle (the first was setting package.env etc to pull
> in ruby26 as well as the currently installed ruby30).
> 
> Does anyone have experience with this builder? I'd like to find out where
> I'm going wrong first.

I'm still not getting through the installation of jekyll. The website[1] says 
to follow the instructions for Ubuntu, but something's lacking. For one thing, 
it says to include ~/gems/bin in my PATH, but there isn't one. I looked for 
something similar under / but nothing turned up.

I followed the instructions to install jekyll and its dependencies, then:
$ gem install jekyll bundler
which went fine, but this failed with a bunch of not-found errors, including 
jekyll itself:
$ jekyll new myblog

Am I still missing a component, or something?

-- 
Regards,
Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone using www-apps/jekyll?

[Peter Humphrey]

On Wednesday, 27 October 2021 14:31:28 BST Peter Humphrey wrote:

Sorry: The site is https://jekyllrb.com/docs/

-- 
Regards,
Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone using www-apps/jekyll?

[Pascal Schorde]

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Hi Peter,

did you have dev-ruby/rubygems installed? See
https://jekyllrb.com/docs/#prerequisites

Cheers

Peter Humphrey <peter@prh.myzen.co.uk> schrieb am Mi., 27. Okt. 2021, 15:36:

> On Wednesday, 27 October 2021 14:31:28 BST Peter Humphrey wrote:
>
> Sorry: The site is https://jekyllrb.com/docs/
>
> --
> Regards,
> Peter.
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone using www-apps/jekyll?

[Peter Humphrey]

On Wednesday, 27 October 2021 14:44:09 BST Pascal Schorde wrote:

> did you have dev-ruby/rubygems installed? See
> https://jekyllrb.com/docs/#prerequisites

Yes, but at version 3.0:

$ eix dev-ruby/rubygems
[I] dev-ruby/rubygems
     Available versions:  3.0.3^t 3.0.9^t 3.1.6^t (~)3.2.14^t{tbz2} [M]
(~)3.2.22^t{tbz2} {server test RUBY_TARGETS="ruby26 ruby27 ruby30"}
     Installed versions:  3.2.14^t{tbz2}(09:19:26 10/26/21)(-server -test 
RUBY_TARGETS="ruby26 ruby30 -ruby27")

One possibility occurred to me: is having two ruby versions installed at once 
the problem? I already had 3.0 installed, the current Gentoo version, but 
jekyll needs 2.6. To test this idea, I'd have to downgrade the whole system to 
2.6; I don't know whether that's even feasible now.

-- 
Regards,
Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone using www-apps/jekyll?

[Jack]

On 2021.10.27 09:59, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Wednesday, 27 October 2021 14:44:09 BST Pascal Schorde wrote:
> 
> > did you have dev-ruby/rubygems installed? See
> > https://jekyllrb.com/docs/#prerequisites
> 
> Yes, but at version 3.0:
> 
> $ eix dev-ruby/rubygems
> [I] dev-ruby/rubygems
>      Available versions:  3.0.3^t 3.0.9^t 3.1.6^t (~)3.2.14^t{tbz2}  
> [M]
> (~)3.2.22^t{tbz2} {server test RUBY_TARGETS="ruby26 ruby27 ruby30"}
>      Installed versions:  3.2.14^t{tbz2}(09:19:26 10/26/21)(-server  
> -test
> RUBY_TARGETS="ruby26 ruby30 -ruby27")
> 
> One possibility occurred to me: is having two ruby versions installed  
> at once
> the problem? I already had 3.0 installed, the current Gentoo version,  
> but
> jekyll needs 2.6. To test this idea, I'd have to downgrade the whole  
> system to
> 2.6; I don't know whether that's even feasible now.
Ruby is slotted, so you can have 2.6 and 3.0 installed together.  You  
would then need to rebuild rubygems to target both of them.  There is  
also a virtual/rubygems.  I'm not really sure of it's function, but it  
seems to just specify a minimum version of rubygems per targetted  
version of ruby.

Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone using www-apps/jekyll?

[Peter Humphrey]

On Wednesday, 27 October 2021 17:25:55 BST Jack wrote:
> On 2021.10.27 09:59, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > One possibility occurred to me: is having two ruby versions installed
> > at once the problem? I already had 3.0 installed, the current Gentoo
> > version, but jekyll needs 2.6. To test this idea, I'd have to downgrade
> > the whole system to 2.6; I don't know whether that's even feasible now.
> 
> Ruby is slotted, so you can have 2.6 and 3.0 installed together.

As I thought, so it isn't that then.

> You would then need to rebuild rubygems to target both of them.

Yes, portage made sure of it while installing jekyll.

> There is also a virtual/rubygems.  I'm not really sure of it's function, but
> it seems to just specify a minimum version of rubygems per targetted
> version of ruby.

...and to ensure that the proper version is installed for each ruby target 
specified?

-- 
Regards,
Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone using www-apps/jekyll?

[Peter Humphrey]

On Wednesday, 27 October 2021 14:59:13 BST Peter Humphrey wrote:

> One possibility occurred to me: is having two ruby versions installed at
> once the problem? I already had 3.0 installed, the current Gentoo version,
> but jekyll needs 2.6. To test this idea, I'd have to downgrade the whole
> system to 2.6; I don't know whether that's even feasible now.

The more I think about it, the more I suspect my path setting. In Ubuntu, 
apparently, there's a ~/gems/bin directory, which is to go at the head of the 
PATH, but what's the equivalent in Gentoo? I could create that directory, but 
what should I put in it?

In fact, I did create the directory, empty, and these commands did finish:

$ GEM_HOME="$HOME/gems" PATH="$HOME/gems/bin:$PATH" gem install 
jekyll bundler
$ jekyll new myblog --force

But then, 
$ GEM_HOME="$HOME/gems" PATH="$HOME/gems/bin:$PATH" bundle exec 
jekyll serve
Could not locate Gemfile or .bundle/ directory

I'm clutching at straws, as you can see...

-- 
Regards,
Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone using www-apps/jekyll?

[Dr Rainer Woitok]

Peter,

On Thursday, 2021-10-28 09:53:48 +0100, you wrote:

> On Wednesday, 27 October 2021 14:59:13 BST Peter Humphrey wrote:
> 
> > One possibility occurred to me: is having two ruby versions installed at
> > once the problem? I already had 3.0 installed, the current Gentoo version,
> > but jekyll needs 2.6. To test this idea, I'd have to downgrade the whole
> > system to 2.6; I don't know whether that's even feasible now.
> 
> The more I think about it, the more I suspect my path setting. In Ubuntu, 
> apparently, there's a ~/gems/bin directory, which is to go at the head of the 
> PATH, but what's the equivalent in Gentoo? I could create that directory, but 
> what should I put in it?

I faintly remember  ... long time ago,  when I had to use some Ruby gems
under both, Ubuntu and Gentoo I think I did something along the lines of

   $ gem install $pkg --user-install
   $ ln -s $(ls -drv ~/.gem/ruby/*/gems/$pkg-*/bin/$pkg | head -1) ~/bin

where the asterisks matched different Ruby and package versions, respec-
tively, and the "-rv" option for the "ls" command caused the most recent
versions to be picked by the "head" command.  And of course, my personal
"~/bin/" directory was mentioned in "PATH" early on.

Not sure though, whether or not that will help you.

Sincerely,
  Rainer

Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone using www-apps/jekyll?

[Peter Humphrey]

On Thursday, 28 October 2021 12:08:01 BST Dr Rainer Woitok wrote:

> I faintly remember  ... long time ago,  when I had to use some Ruby gems
> under both, Ubuntu and Gentoo I think I did something along the lines of
> 
>    $ gem install $pkg --user-install

Er...
$ gem install jekyll bundler --user-install
ERROR:  Use --install-dir or --user-install but not both

I couldn't find anything helpful in '$ gem help install' either.

>    $ ln -s $(ls -drv ~/.gem/ruby/*/gems/$pkg-*/bin/$pkg | head -1) ~/bin
> 
> where the asterisks matched different Ruby and package versions, respec-
> tively, and the "-rv" option for the "ls" command caused the most recent
> versions to be picked by the "head" command.  And of course, my personal
> "~/bin/" directory was mentioned in "PATH" early on.
> 
> Not sure though, whether or not that will help you.

Thanks anyway, Rainer.

-- 
Regards,
Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone using www-apps/jekyll?

[Alec Ten Harmsel]

Hi Peter,

On Wed, Oct 27, 2021, at 09:31, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Thursday, 21 October 2021 17:11:27 BST Peter Humphrey wrote:
>> Hello list,
>> 
>> I wanted to try this package to create a small site for myself, but I'm
>> falling at the second hurdle (the first was setting package.env etc to pull
>> in ruby26 as well as the currently installed ruby30).
>> 
>> Does anyone have experience with this builder? I'd like to find out where
>> I'm going wrong first.
>
> I'm still not getting through the installation of jekyll. The website[1] says 
> to follow the instructions for Ubuntu, but something's lacking. For one thing, 
> it says to include ~/gems/bin in my PATH, but there isn't one. I looked for 
> something similar under / but nothing turned up.
>
> I followed the instructions to install jekyll and its dependencies, then:
> $ gem install jekyll bundler
> which went fine, but this failed with a bunch of not-found errors, including 
> jekyll itself:
> $ jekyll new myblog
>
> Am I still missing a component, or something?

I got jekyll installed via portage by adding:

    dev-ruby/* ~amd64
    www-apps/jekyll ~amd64
    www-apps/jekyll-* ~amd64

to package.accept_keywords, and then running `emerge www-apps/jekyll'. This is on stable, with a tree that is a couple weeks old for what it's worth. Then `jekyll new testsite && bundle exec jekyll serve' works for me.

You could also try using jekyll outside of portage:

    mkdir mysite && cd mysite
    bundle init
    bundle config set path 'vendor/bundle'
    bundle add jekyll
    bundle exec jekyll new --force .
    rm Gemfile.lock
    rm -rf ./vendor/bundle
    bundle config set path 'vendor/bundle'
    bundle install
    bundle exec jekyll serve

And then continue following other jekyll instructions as needed. You'll have to use `bundle exec jekyll ...' to run jekyll - you won't be able to run jekyll directly.

Hope this helps,

Alec

Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone using www-apps/jekyll?

[Peter Humphrey]

On Thursday, 28 October 2021 13:34:49 BST Alec Ten Harmsel wrote:

> I got jekyll installed via portage by adding:
> 
>     dev-ruby/* ~amd64
>     www-apps/jekyll ~amd64
>     www-apps/jekyll-* ~amd64
> 
> to package.accept_keywords, and then running `emerge www-apps/jekyll'.
> This is on stable, with a tree that is a couple weeks old for what it's
> worth.

This system is ~amd64, so I didn't have to do that.

> Then `jekyll new testsite && bundle exec jekyll serve' works for me.

$ jekyll new myblog && bundle exec jekyll serve
...
[A number of Bundler: Using... messages]
...
New jekyll site installed in /home/prh/myblog. 
Could not locate Gemfile or .bundle/ directory

# find / -xdev -iname gemfile
/usr/lib64/ruby/gems/3.0.0/gems/jekyll-seo-tag-2.7.1/Gemfile
/usr/lib64/ruby/gems/3.0.0/gems/bundler-2.2.29/lib/bundler/templates/Gemfile
/usr/lib64/ruby/gems/2.6.0/gems/bundler-2.2.29/lib/bundler/templates/Gemfile
/usr/lib64/ruby/gems/2.6.0/gems/jekyll-4.2.0/lib/theme_template/Gemfile
$ find . -xdev -iname gemfile
./.local/share/gem/ruby/3.0.0/gems/jekyll-4.2.1/lib/theme_template/Gemfile
./.local/share/gem/ruby/3.0.0/gems/mercenary-0.4.0/Gemfile
./.local/share/gem/ruby/3.0.0/gems/terminal-table-2.0.0/Gemfile
./.local/share/gem/ruby/3.0.0/gems/http_parser.rb-0.6.0/Gemfile
./.local/share/gem/ruby/3.0.0/gems/bundler-2.2.30/lib/bundler/templates/Gemfile
./.local/share/gem/ruby/3.0.0/gems/addressable-2.8.0/Gemfile
./.local/share/gem/ruby/3.0.0/gems/forwardable-extended-2.6.0/Gemfile
./.local/share/gem/ruby/3.0.0/gems/rb-inotify-0.10.1/Gemfile
./.local/share/gem/ruby/3.0.0/gems/em-websocket-0.5.2/Gemfile
./.local/share/gem/ruby/3.0.0/gems/sassc-2.4.0/Gemfile
./.local/share/gem/ruby/3.0.0/gems/concurrent-ruby-1.1.9/Gemfile
./.local/share/gem/ruby/3.0.0/gems/safe_yaml-1.0.5/Gemfile
./.local/share/gem/ruby/3.0.0/gems/rb-fsevent-0.11.0/Gemfile
./.local/share/gem/ruby/3.0.0/gems/bundler-2.2.29/lib/bundler/templates/Gemfile
./.local/share/gem/ruby/3.0.0/gems/ffi-1.15.4/Gemfile
./.local/share/gem/ruby/3.0.0/gems/colorator-1.1.0/Gemfile
./.local/share/gem/ruby/3.0.0/gems/rouge-3.26.1/Gemfile
./.local/share/gem/ruby/3.0.0/gems/public_suffix-4.0.6/Gemfile
./.local/share/gem/ruby/3.0.0/gems/pathutil-0.16.2/Gemfile
./myblog/Gemfile
$ grep -v \# myblog/Gemfile | grep -v ^$
source "https://rubygems.org"
gem "jekyll", "~> 4.2.0"
gem "minima", "~> 2.5"
group :jekyll_plugins do
  gem "jekyll-feed", "~> 0.12"
end
platforms :mingw, :x64_mingw, :mswin, :jruby do
  gem "tzinfo", "~> 1.2"
  gem "tzinfo-data"
end
gem "wdm", "~> 0.1.1", :platforms => [:mingw, :x64_mingw, :mswin]

(That last line relates to Windows and Jruby.) It still looks like a PATH 
problem, but what do I know?   :(

> You could also try using jekyll outside of portage:
> 
>     mkdir mysite && cd mysite
>     bundle init
>     bundle config set path 'vendor/bundle'
>     bundle add jekyll
>     bundle exec jekyll new --force .
>     rm Gemfile.lock
>     rm -rf ./vendor/bundle
>     bundle config set path 'vendor/bundle'
>     bundle install
>     bundle exec jekyll serve
> 
> And then continue following other jekyll instructions as needed. You'll have
> to use `bundle exec jekyll ...' to run jekyll - you won't be able to run
> jekyll directly.

Thanks Alec. I may have to try something like that, but I'd rather have it 
installed by portage if I can.

Perhaps I'm just growing too old for this sort of thing...

-- 
Regards,
Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone using www-apps/jekyll?

[Alec Ten Harmsel]

On Thu, Oct 28, 2021, at 09:25, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Thursday, 28 October 2021 13:34:49 BST Alec Ten Harmsel wrote:
>
>> I got jekyll installed via portage by adding:
>> 
>>     dev-ruby/* ~amd64
>>     www-apps/jekyll ~amd64
>>     www-apps/jekyll-* ~amd64
>> 
>> to package.accept_keywords, and then running `emerge www-apps/jekyll'.
>> This is on stable, with a tree that is a couple weeks old for what it's
>> worth.
>
> This system is ~amd64, so I didn't have to do that.
>
>> Then `jekyll new testsite && bundle exec jekyll serve' works for me.
>
> $ jekyll new myblog && bundle exec jekyll serve
> ...
> [A number of Bundler: Using... messages]
> ...
> New jekyll site installed in /home/prh/myblog. 
> Could not locate Gemfile or .bundle/ directory
>

Oops, I missed a step: `jekyll new myblog && cd $_ && bundle exec jekyll serve'. You'll have to change into the `myblog' directory.

Alec

Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone using www-apps/jekyll?

[Peter Humphrey]

On Thursday, 28 October 2021 14:42:44 BST Alec Ten Harmsel wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 28, 2021, at 09:25, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > On Thursday, 28 October 2021 13:34:49 BST Alec Ten Harmsel wrote:
> >> I got jekyll installed via portage by adding:
> >>     dev-ruby/* ~amd64
> >>     www-apps/jekyll ~amd64
> >>     www-apps/jekyll-* ~amd64
> >> 
> >> to package.accept_keywords, and then running `emerge www-apps/
jekyll'.
> >> This is on stable, with a tree that is a couple weeks old for what it's
> >> worth.
> > 
> > This system is ~amd64, so I didn't have to do that.
> > 
> >> Then `jekyll new testsite && bundle exec jekyll serve' works for me.
> > 
> > $ jekyll new myblog && bundle exec jekyll serve
> > ...
> > [A number of Bundler: Using... messages]
> > ...
> > New jekyll site installed in /home/prh/myblog.
> > Could not locate Gemfile or .bundle/ directory
> 
> I missed a step: 

$ jekyll new myblog && cd $_ && bundle exec jekyll serve
[...]
New jekyll site installed in /home/prh/myblog. 
Could not find jekyll-4.2.1, minima-2.5.1, jekyll-feed-0.15.1, terminal-
table-2.0.0, jekyll-seo-tag-2.7.1, unicode-display_width-1.8.0, rb-
fsevent-0.11.0 in any of the sources
Run `bundle install` to install missing gems.

Those missing gems can't really be missing, because I know they've been 
installed - they just can't be found, which is why I suspect my paths.

Inside ~/myblog, Gemfile can't be found. Outside, gems can't be found.

Another problem is that web-apps/jekyll is marked maintainer-needed, so 
there's no point in raising a bug.

-- 
Regards,
Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone using www-apps/jekyll?

[Jack]

> On Thursday, 21 October 2021 17:11:27 BST Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > Hello list,
> >
> > I wanted to try this package to create a small site for myself, but  
> I'm
> > falling at the second hurdle (the first was setting package.env etc  
> to pull
> > in ruby26 as well as the currently installed ruby30).
> >
> > Does anyone have experience with this builder? I'd like to find out  
> where
> > I'm going wrong first.

I just noticed something which may or may not help.  The jekyllrb.com  
docs page, under Prerequisites, says Ruby version 2.5.0 or higher.  Why  
does the ebuild insist on 2.5 (no longer even in the tree) or 2.6.  If  
I were going to install it, the first thing I'd probably do is make a  
copy in my local overlay, and allow a newer version of ruby.  I don't  
think that is likely to help with your problem of not finding one thing  
or another, but who knows?  (A note lower down on that page says that  
using ruby 3.0.0 or higher add a requirement for webrick, but that is  
available in portage, and could be handled in the ebuild.

Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone using www-apps/jekyll?

[Peter Humphrey]

On Thursday, 28 October 2021 21:54:50 BST Jack wrote:

> I just noticed something which may or may not help.  The jekyllrb.com
> docs page, under Prerequisites, says Ruby version 2.5.0 or higher.  Why
> does the ebuild insist on 2.5 (no longer even in the tree) or 2.6.  If
> I were going to install it, the first thing I'd probably do is make a
> copy in my local overlay, and allow a newer version of ruby.  I don't
> think that is likely to help with your problem of not finding one thing
> or another, but who knows?  (A note lower down on that page says that
> using ruby 3.0.0 or higher add a requirement for webrick, but that is
> available in portage, and could be handled in the ebuild.

It's worth a try. I'll wait until after my weekly full backup at the weekend, 
though, then I'll give it a go. I have webrick installed already, using a Ruby 
Gem to do that (I think).

Thanks for the idea.

-- 
Regards,
Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone using www-apps/jekyll?

[Peter Humphrey]

On Thursday, 28 October 2021 21:54:50 GMT Jack wrote:
> > On Thursday, 21 October 2021 17:11:27 BST Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > > Hello list,
> > > 
> > > I wanted to try this package to create a small site for myself, but
> > 
> > I'm
> > 
> > > falling at the second hurdle (the first was setting package.env etc
> > 
> > to pull
> > 
> > > in ruby26 as well as the currently installed ruby30).
> > > 
> > > Does anyone have experience with this builder? I'd like to find out
> > 
> > where
> > 
> > > I'm going wrong first.
> 
> I just noticed something which may or may not help.  The jekyllrb.com
> docs page, under Prerequisites, says Ruby version 2.5.0 or higher.  Why
> does the ebuild insist on 2.5 (no longer even in the tree) or 2.6.  If
> I were going to install it, the first thing I'd probably do is make a
> copy in my local overlay, and allow a newer version of ruby.  I don't
> think that is likely to help with your problem of not finding one thing
> or another, but who knows?  (A note lower down on that page says that
> using ruby 3.0.0 or higher add a requirement for webrick, but that is
> available in portage, and could be handled in the ebuild.

I can't see any future in trying to get Jekyll going on Gentoo, so I'm trying 
another tack: Kubuntu. Now I'm falling foul of VirtualBox, in particular its 
guest additions, which won't compile. Bug 814197 refers.

So maybe it's time to try dual-boot.

-- 
Regards,
Peter.