From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FEB7198005 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 17:37:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 13D3DE05D7; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 17:37:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nm22-vm7.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm22-vm7.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [212.82.109.226]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1DAC3E0587 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 17:37:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [77.238.189.230] by nm22.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Mar 2013 17:37:15 -0000 Received: from [217.146.189.102] by tm11.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Mar 2013 17:37:15 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp118.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Mar 2013 17:37:15 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1363369035; bh=90N534YgApT3rotl3SSwgImKcXbUTKIlrzBBhqMYulU=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:Message-ID:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:X-Mailer:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=YYskXAnfj6Hp9jcNKnjK3a0mhqz8DpJkuGWASQtx7J+8CkfO+FZFzr+2BCrJTZuH0FlYyMymAEZzAHjgMj0W2Sf7+0toPfOcU4PWRimu2bubJaZKvU+XPzW92jI/OYkR+3AH0q4Sd/PMwBicbKyz2DnxkxG2ABmbPRFlx2Rmo+I= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 316058.21061.bm@smtp118.mail.ird.yahoo.com Message-ID: <316058.21061.bm@smtp118.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: 92NMtpYVM1l736Bvn3Fd6m0iGJA_xQnx_x02iZ50JeRmXef W77H5vfwq1EgW4uopgt_hLSjP0f5Auaf4j2S.2mCnGY34cZcLvOtaqtpqLgj o80ycquOKfJJj2zps3.u7VHnuffDmvDFCqAfcpDFR87ERTgSnWpNCZ1.gbZa yWjTUgrgxViEWTjebQsN_pSDuxweVsB._SqPiTDpRI8saOzRXoJ4hf_BMF0F GWpG8BQ.Oo6M8LrTzGN.0.YI.Ki4z1oRrJfcp6c2YnZZjyCsVd.JqpF4WVSo 3NG2GXVjQF._WOvb1VtR5evIhLdnAJQEx.HM1Lz6kWVmrEKPVaH5w4sDAC1m 2XSm9sT56.XE_ZRsarDIql0wRTOCnNcF91S7.eK9TscOoAxOvQZTUvxA_G.5 J2nPLq_xrzO81ZROgeE5sLFTZGVCpL_kPhvnJec76yb5sMdx_ X-Yahoo-SMTP: UxXxlhuswBC4wbdewolpwSmT1iJVzQ-- X-Rocket-Received: from sprat (ma1l1ists@92.27.156.6 with login) by smtp118.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Mar 2013 10:37:15 -0700 PDT Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 17:32:07 +0000 From: Kevin Chadwick To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [Bulk] [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo speed comparison to other distros In-Reply-To: <87hakchk3x.fsf@ist.utl.pt> References: <51418728.7020406@gmail.com> <514251FC.6040302@gmail.com> <51425F43.1090803@fuuzetsu.co.uk> <514262C9.9080101@gmail.com> <87hakchk3x.fsf@ist.utl.pt> X-Mailer: KeVs Mailer Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: de037f40-8ff7-434e-bd98-fb361798ef92 X-Archives-Hash: a15c91f703f2744772cf2b1d8602f02b > > I didn't miss anything. I get what some are saying. The reason for my > > question is this. Gentoo allows a person to customize the OS to the > > specific hardware it is being run on. Redhat and other binary distros > > don't allow this, unless you compile your own packages which is no > > longer really a binary install. > > > > So, if I install Redhat on my machine, would it be less efficient than > > my Gentoo install which is customized for my hardware? Has someone else > > tested this and made it public? > > > > If people can't get this, never mind. > > I have not tested this nor seen data on this, but I'd look for > comparisons on the efficiency and gains from gcc optimizations. These > would be what benefits source-based distros on a specific system > compared to binary distros, and a benchmark made with gcc will be > simpler and easier to deal with than an os-wide benchmark. Or the real difference maker, designing the program itself to be faster or using a really fast storage device bearing in mind any draw backs like storage space. If you use hardened Gentoo or OpenBSD or a PAE gentoo like Sabayon it may be slightly slower but more secure but you won't notice any difference when waiting for firefox to open until the second time. If you use the Gentoo hardened Tinfoil Linux you will need lots of ram and wait ages to boot but firefox will just pop up. Compiling speed, well I would just get better hardware or do distributed compiles as otherwise chances are your taking risks especially if you don't test and understand exactly what you are changing very well bearing in mind that with compilers everything may work fine 97% instead of 99% of the time. -- _______________________________________________________________________ 'Write programs that do one thing and do it well. Write programs to work together. Write programs to handle text streams, because that is a universal interface' (Doug McIlroy) _______________________________________________________________________