From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E46541389F5 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2015 03:34:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0F4BDE0A02; Sat, 4 Apr 2015 03:34:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.226]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7B1BE09E0 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2015 03:34:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [142.196.200.180] ([142.196.200.180:33745] helo=navi.localnet) by cdptpa-oedge03 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 27/33-10572-EBB5F155; Sat, 04 Apr 2015 03:34:22 +0000 From: Fernando Rodriguez To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Question of quantum computer Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2015 23:33:27 -0400 Message-ID: <3133959.XaWlFLPb7Z@navi> User-Agent: KMail/4.14.3 (Linux/3.19.1; KDE/4.14.3; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <20150404025037.1fcedb2c@hal9000.localdomain> References: <551F28DF.5070800@gmail.com> <20150404025037.1fcedb2c@hal9000.localdomain> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-RR-Connecting-IP: 107.14.168.142:25 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Archives-Salt: 4d241250-0472-4879-bd83-070af4a9d6a0 X-Archives-Hash: 9a69d6411159bad7b678cc273cd7a488 On Saturday, April 04, 2015 2:50:37 AM wabenbau@gmail.com wrote: > One thing that I don't understand is, why the fact that gravity can be > described by a theory of bended space-time is leading to the assumption, > that there really exists such a "rubber cloth" like space. I think it's because he did believe that (and he may be right, it is so far the best explanation we have despite it shortcommings). The words he uses on the book to describe it IIRC is "shape shifting mollusk", which probably sounds better in German. Most of the models built on it depend on it being a very real thing and it does explain a lot of things: expansion, red/blue shift, background radiation, etc. The big bang as we understand it today requires no only that space can bend but that it expanded faster than light. -- Fernando Rodriguez