From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 84F051386A3 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2021 08:47:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E49B1E088A; Fri, 25 Jun 2021 08:46:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-gw.thundermail.uk (mail-gw.thundermail.uk [149.255.60.77]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 34B2BE087A for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2021 08:46:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailgw01.thundermail.uk (mail-gw.thundermail.uk [149.255.60.66]) by mail-gw.thundermail.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DAF0E60000BD for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2021 09:46:57 +0100 (BST) X-ASG-Debug-ID: 1624610816-0554137d141653cb0001-LfjuLa Received: from cloud220.unlimitedwebhosting.co.uk (cloud220.unlimitedwebhosting.co.uk [149.255.60.183]) by mailgw01.thundermail.uk with ESMTP id 9Y9xazSUqWkuKtll (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2021 09:46:56 +0100 (BST) X-Barracuda-Envelope-From: confabulate@kintzios.com X-Barracuda-Effective-Source-IP: cloud220.unlimitedwebhosting.co.uk[149.255.60.183] X-Barracuda-Apparent-Source-IP: 149.255.60.183 Received: from lenovo.localdomain (230.3.169.217.in-addr.arpa [217.169.3.230]) by cloud220.unlimitedwebhosting.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 06750C74F39 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2021 09:46:55 +0100 (BST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=kintzios.com; s=default; t=1624610816; bh=h1vx7+1I/4f0qxKWQ9cB5pEwXYWJbZ9fT+9GOf7irg8=; h=From:To:Subject; b=TEfvx8ynURSx/qJxcKAby4h3M19Q7Q5tW0B8S7UNCb16kWE3tvc1lRc9rzvMrwTZI ZYzvShE+Jb50oxuDOU7SlyQnJciiF52H3JsjiTp4RM4/dNJIo78kCbsv3bq+GvHW7/ Ro8c9y0VpQHAXIr39223BzwMBRw4L2VEhVjyVsuw= From: Michael To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] New install - Wayland and graphical login Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2021 09:46:46 +0100 X-ASG-Orig-Subj: Re: [gentoo-user] New install - Wayland and graphical login Message-ID: <3116964.aeNJFYEL58@lenovo.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <23c7d34a-f413-cf05-c7bf-1106430afb3b@youngman.org.uk> References: <60D0BDF3.9000302@youngman.org.uk> <20210623101136.7f3783bd@echoes> <23c7d34a-f413-cf05-c7bf-1106430afb3b@youngman.org.uk> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart3122937.44csPzL39Z"; micalg="pgp-sha256"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-PPP-Message-ID: <20210625084656.3233321.39724@cloud220.unlimitedwebhosting.co.uk> X-PPP-Vhost: kintzios.com X-Barracuda-Connect: cloud220.unlimitedwebhosting.co.uk[149.255.60.183] X-Barracuda-Start-Time: 1624610816 X-Barracuda-Encrypted: ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 X-Barracuda-URL: https://149.255.60.66:443/cgi-mod/mark.cgi X-ASG-Orig-Subj: Re: [gentoo-user] New install - Wayland and graphical login X-Virus-Scanned: by bsmtpd at thundermail.uk X-Barracuda-Scan-Msg-Size: 3282 X-Barracuda-BRTS-Status: 1 X-Barracuda-Spam-Score: 0.00 X-Barracuda-Spam-Status: No, SCORE=0.00 using global scores of TAG_LEVEL=1000.0 QUARANTINE_LEVEL=1000.0 KILL_LEVEL=1.9 tests= X-Barracuda-Spam-Report: Code version 3.2, rules version 3.2.3.90887 Rule breakdown below pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- X-Archives-Salt: 178985ce-0b89-4c76-887f-24dea5be7d3d X-Archives-Hash: e428c49d348f3e79a52a0b611906505d --nextPart3122937.44csPzL39Z Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"; protected-headers="v1" From: Michael To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: confabulate@kintzios.com Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] New install - Wayland and graphical login Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2021 09:46:46 +0100 Message-ID: <3116964.aeNJFYEL58@lenovo.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <23c7d34a-f413-cf05-c7bf-1106430afb3b@youngman.org.uk> References: <60D0BDF3.9000302@youngman.org.uk> <20210623101136.7f3783bd@echoes> <23c7d34a-f413-cf05-c7bf-1106430afb3b@youngman.org.uk> On Friday, 25 June 2021 08:50:32 BST antlists wrote: > On 23/06/2021 10:11, jdm wrote: > > On Mon, 21 Jun 2021 16:17:41 +0100 > > > > Michael wrote: > >> On Monday, 21 June 2021 17:27:31 BST Wols Lists wrote: > >>> What happens when you get to the end of the handbook? > >>> > >>> I want to get a working Wayland setup with a (multi-user) graphical > >>> login. When I set my old system up ($DEITY knows how long ago) I > >>> seem to remember a page on setting up X, and all sorts of stuff. > >>> > >>> Now, you seem to get dumped at working tty1 prompt, and then the > >>> *helpful* documentation JUST STOPS. It doesn't even point you at > >>> anything! (Yes it points you at the portage page about how to > >>> maintain your system, but that isn't much use if you can't DO > >>> anything with the system...) > >>> > >>> I've found the page on Wayland, but it just says "set this use flag > >>> and install two packages". > >>> > >>> Where's the documentation that tells me what I need, and how to set > >>> it up, please ... > >>> > >>> Cheers, > >>> Wol > >> > >> Have you tried using a Display Manager? Some of my systems won't > >> work with Wayland, but I haven't spent time to find out why all I get > >> with them is a black screen. > >> > >> Anyway, from a VT you'd run something like: > >> > >> XDG_SESSION_TYPE=wayland dbus-run-session startplasma-wayland > >> > >> or > >> > >> XDG_SESSION_TYPE=wayland dbus-run-session gnome-session > > > > There is a wayland greeter which uses greetd and gtkgreet which may > > be worth looking at and there is a gentoo wiki which goes a long with > > it. It works with wayfire which is a nice wayland window manager and is > > very reliable. > > > > Also look at https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Wayland_Desktop_Landscape > > Thanks, but I'm none the wiser ... the thing is, for X the instructions > are simple - "install xorg, run startx". > > Okay, I've done that and got errors I need to solve, but with Wayland I > just don't have a clue. I don't know what I need, I don't know how to > start it, all I've got is a pile of bits in a box, and I don't know what > to do with them. > > Everything I find is like a meccano set - there's loads of bits and > pieces, but no instructions, and I don't have a clue how they fit > together. Where's the recipe that says "do this this and this and you > should have a gui"? > > Cheers, > Wol >From what I recall as long as you set USE="wayland" globally and re-emerge world with '--changed-use' you should able to launch your dekstop in wayland, rather than Xserver. https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Wayland There is a caveat, to make things simple: your desktop environment should have full support for wayland compositing - e.g. Plasma and Gnome come ready baked with their own compositor and will run in Wayland. Window managers which do not possess a compositor will require one installed separately, as noted in jdm's post, but then we're getting into a box with a pile of bits in it. To launch wayland you can either install a Display Manager and select to start wayland from its GUI options, instead of X11, or you can run the stanzas I provided above. --nextPart3122937.44csPzL39Z Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. 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