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From: "J. Roeleveld" <joost@antarean.org>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems
Date: Sun, 04 May 2014 21:22:15 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3077184.ESb4oPm3p1@andromeda> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <53668EEC.6000709@xunil.at>

On Sunday, May 04, 2014 09:03:08 PM Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
> Am 04.05.2014 20:40, schrieb J. Roeleveld:
> > On Sunday, May 04, 2014 03:07:28 PM Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
> >> Oh, yes, I like ZFS and its features and used it in some cases already.
> >> But I didn't yet take the step to set up ZFS-root on my work machines.
> > 
> > I haven't yet, but it's on the list of items to look into at some point.
> > I'd like to know if, with ZFS, it is possible to create block-devices like
> > LVs which I can then attach to VMs. Or if I have to use files instead.
> I think you would have to use files on top of ZFS ... but I am not
> up-to-date in that area.
> 
> People run KVM-hosts with storage on ZFS ... nice with the snapshots etc ...

Does KVM support running snapshots?
Eg. also storing the memory and registers?
I have not found any indication that KVM supports that.

Without that, KVM is useless to me.


> > That's a hardware raid device with 4 * 3TB disks with raid-6.
> > I don't like the fact that a 2nd disk-failure can kill a raid-10 when both
> > disks are in the same mirror-set.
> > 
> > gdisk automatically aligns on 2048 sector boundaries, that is more then
> > enough for the 4k-sectors and the block/stripe sizes employed by the
> > raid-controller.
> Yes, this is for UEFI booting, thanks.
> 
> I tried to migrate to GPT/BIOS-booting today but failed. It seems my
> mainboard/BIOS has problems detecting that ... I vaguely remember this
> from trying it back then.

I thought the MBR info that's possible with GPT would make it possible with 
any BIOS?
Provided the /boot partition is early enough on the disk.

> So I am back on a freshly partitioned and formatted SSD with plain old
> MBR now.
> 
> I also wanted to partition the SSD according to the Erase Block Size of
> 6144 kB by this way ... dunno if this is still needed or has any real
> speed benefits.

Again, I would expect current tools should do that automagically?

> Maybe I take another approach to migrate to UEFI/GPT in the next days,
> now that I have my rsynced filesystems at hand (I got rid of more LVs
> and stuff so it gets pretty slim now).

Less LVs is simpler. More is more flexible.

> > UUIDs, I believe, do work natively. And those are stored inside the
> > partition itself. Which means they should also work. But are not as easy
> > to locate. (eg. you don't specify them yourself)
> 
> Yep. LABELs are human readable ... big advantage.

I would like LABELs to be supported directly by the kernel.

> > See the partitioning on my server above.
> > It boots using BIOS as I haven't been able to boot Xen using UEFI yet.
> 
> So then the EFI partition is useless ...

True, but I leave it there as repartitioning requires extended downtime. And I 
do occasionally test new versions to see if I can get it to work.

> > Support should be there now, but not been able to test that yet.
> > GPT is supported by grub-1 (and grub2) and with the MBR-support inside
> > GPT,
> > booting works from BIOS/MBR.
> 
> ... if your BIOS isn't crappy ;-)

Try updating? :)

Seriously, do you have the following:

***
# man gdisk
artemis ~ # gdisk -l /dev/sda
GPT fdisk (gdisk) version 0.8.8

Partition table scan:
  MBR: protective

***

That last line of what I copied is the bit that should make it possible.

Also, the /boot partition needs to have the mbr-boot flag (or whatever it's 
called) enabled.

--
Joost


  reply	other threads:[~2014-05-04 19:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 129+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-03 10:12 [gentoo-user] boot problems Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 10:27 ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-03 10:33   ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 10:54     ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-03 11:06       ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 11:14         ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-03 10:28 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 10:49   ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-03 10:56     ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 11:05       ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-03 11:12         ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 11:19           ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-03 11:26             ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 11:37               ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-03 13:46                 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-05-03 13:48                   ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 13:59                     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-05-03 14:29                       ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 15:08                     ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-03 15:10                       ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-05-03 15:07                   ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-03 11:39               ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 12:03                 ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-03 12:09                   ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 12:19                     ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-03 12:38                       ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 18:43                         ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-03 12:08                 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 12:17                   ` Todd Goodman
2014-05-03 12:23                     ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-03 13:08                       ` Todd Goodman
2014-05-03 13:24                         ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 12:27                     ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 12:17                   ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-03 12:43                     ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 12:52                       ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-03 12:55                         ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 13:50                         ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-05-03 13:57                           ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 16:40                             ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 16:51                               ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 17:00                                 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 17:25                                   ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-05-03 17:49                                     ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 18:30                                     ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 18:33                                       ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-05-03 18:37                                         ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 18:47                                           ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-03 18:51                                             ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 18:56                                               ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-03 19:00                                                 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 19:37                                               ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-05-03 18:30                                     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-05-03 18:35                                       ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-03 19:33                                         ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-05-03 19:38                                           ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 19:41                                             ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-05-03 19:53                                               ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 20:23                                                 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 20:46                                                   ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-05  5:09                                               ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-05-05  6:18                                                 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-05  6:40                                                   ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-05-15  6:21                                                     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-05-15  6:49                                                       ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-05-15  7:08                                                         ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-15  9:14                                                           ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-15  9:58                                                             ` covici
2014-05-15 10:00                                                               ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-15 18:05                                                             ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-05-15 18:27                                                               ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-15 18:28                                                                 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-15 18:33                                                                 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-05-16  9:46                                                                   ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-16 10:04                                                                     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-05-16 11:06                                                                       ` Alan McKinnon
2014-05-16 11:14                                                                         ` covici
2014-05-16 12:03                                                                           ` Neil Bothwick
2014-05-16 12:35                                                                             ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-16 12:43                                                                               ` Neil Bothwick
2014-05-16 13:03                                                                                 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-16 19:40                                                                                   ` Neil Bothwick
2014-05-16 12:54                                                                               ` covici
2014-05-16 13:05                                                                                 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-16 14:01                                                                                   ` covici
2014-05-16 12:13                                                                           ` Alan McKinnon
2014-05-16 20:01                                                                           ` Marc Joliet
2014-05-16 12:52                                                                         ` [gentoo-user] Re: LVM Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-16 19:50                                                                         ` [gentoo-user] boot problems Marc Joliet
2014-05-18  0:18                                                                         ` Walter Dnes
2014-05-19 10:54                                                                       ` Tanstaafl
2014-05-16 11:56                                                                     ` Bruce Schultz
2014-05-16 12:10                                                                       ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-16 17:09                                                                         ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-05-03 17:09                     ` Peter Humphrey
2014-05-03 18:40                       ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-03 20:50                         ` Peter Humphrey
2014-05-03 21:04                           ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-04  8:53                             ` Peter Humphrey
2014-05-04  9:15                               ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-04 10:49                                 ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-04 13:07                                   ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-04 18:40                                     ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-04 19:03                                       ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-04 19:22                                         ` J. Roeleveld [this message]
2014-05-05  6:10                                           ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-05  6:52                                             ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-05  7:09                                               ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-05  7:48                                                 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-05  9:14                                                   ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-05 11:25                                                     ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-05 12:27                                                       ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-05 14:12                                                         ` [gentoo-user] Re: Qemu/KVM Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-05 19:20                                                           ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-05  7:50                                               ` [gentoo-user] boot problems Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-04 10:37                               ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-04 13:22                                 ` Peter Humphrey
2014-05-04 18:44                                   ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-04 12:15                         ` Neil Bothwick
2014-05-04 18:48                           ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-04 20:09                             ` Neil Bothwick
2014-05-05  6:14                               ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-05  6:54                                 ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-05  9:02                                 ` Neil Bothwick
2014-05-05  8:54                             ` Tom H
2014-05-03 12:52                   ` Tom H
2014-05-03 13:26                     ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-04  1:56 ` Mark Pariente
2014-05-04  9:01   ` Stefan G. Weichinger

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