From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 21A231382C5 for ; Wed, 20 May 2020 18:12:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8EA46E09D6; Wed, 20 May 2020 18:11:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-gw.thundermail.uk (mail-gw.thundermail.uk [149.255.60.71]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3BA90E09AD for ; Wed, 20 May 2020 18:11:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailgw01.thundermail.uk (mail-gw.thundermail.uk [149.255.60.66]) by mail-gw.thundermail.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7A8EA6003E33 for ; Wed, 20 May 2020 19:11:53 +0100 (BST) X-ASG-Debug-ID: 1589998312-05541315aade6920001-LfjuLa Received: from cloud307.thundercloud.uk (cloud307.thundercloud.uk [149.255.58.40]) by mailgw01.thundermail.uk with ESMTP id v22XzVBjC7FME1Ur (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 20 May 2020 19:11:53 +0100 (BST) X-Barracuda-Envelope-From: confabulate@kintzios.com X-Barracuda-Effective-Source-IP: cloud307.thundercloud.uk[149.255.58.40] X-Barracuda-Apparent-Source-IP: 149.255.58.40 Received: from lenovo.localdomain (230.3.169.217.in-addr.arpa [217.169.3.230]) by cloud307.thundercloud.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 250C4C1C36E for ; Wed, 20 May 2020 19:11:52 +0100 (BST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=kintzios.com; s=default; t=1589998312; bh=awNQeQesGZ9utSd7T2q0PeNibL3c5XYuxTseciA2w/c=; h=From:To:Subject; b=cydUq4ulsb306hcIuqoy0RUxY19JMaDIfJNoZjfyWVUqMcRpsmx9QSuWrlMeA5H7G at0rjMNDtDc1VXqqqYos/bg1/wdN9BcqMZkso6XfGnWM7EOq1CayacZST8igfMGx4g GHww4vGWKTwSlGCE5PNLRiF6FQkUpDMHO5MH619k= Authentication-Results: cloud307.thundercloud.uk; spf=pass (sender IP is 217.169.3.230) smtp.mailfrom=confabulate@kintzios.com smtp.helo=lenovo.localdomain Received-SPF: pass (cloud307.thundercloud.uk: connection is authenticated) From: Michael To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Getting rid of unwanted languages (Was: Re: gimp help not available, even with USE doc) Date: Wed, 20 May 2020 19:04:12 +0100 X-ASG-Orig-Subj: Re: [gentoo-user] Getting rid of unwanted languages (Was: Re: gimp help not available, even with USE doc) Message-ID: <3056579.44csPzL39Z@lenovo.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <3530265.kQq0lBPeGt@peak> References: <30c16790-0a2a-d5e2-966f-487fd36082e4@web.de> <11526459.O9o76ZdvQC@peak> <3530265.kQq0lBPeGt@peak> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart7760847.T7Z3S40VBb"; micalg="pgp-sha256"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-PPP-Message-ID: <20200520181152.3376772.9024@cloud307.thundercloud.uk> X-PPP-Vhost: kintzios.com X-Barracuda-Connect: cloud307.thundercloud.uk[149.255.58.40] X-Barracuda-Start-Time: 1589998313 X-Barracuda-Encrypted: ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 X-Barracuda-URL: https://149.255.60.66:443/cgi-mod/mark.cgi X-Virus-Scanned: by bsmtpd at thundermail.uk X-Barracuda-Scan-Msg-Size: 1951 X-Barracuda-BRTS-Status: 1 X-Barracuda-Spam-Score: 0.00 X-Barracuda-Spam-Status: No, SCORE=0.00 using global scores of TAG_LEVEL=1000.0 QUARANTINE_LEVEL=1000.0 KILL_LEVEL=1.9 tests= X-Barracuda-Spam-Report: Code version 3.2, rules version 3.2.3.81985 Rule breakdown below pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- X-Archives-Salt: 12d27bde-b80e-49a4-9334-b1c8abea96b6 X-Archives-Hash: 30d29cddf867ec1a08c01244cd8a42fc --nextPart7760847.T7Z3S40VBb Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Wednesday, 20 May 2020 17:40:31 BST Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Wednesday, 20 May 2020 17:16:57 BST Peter Humphrey wrote: > > On Wednesday, 20 May 2020 16:59:35 BST Walter Dnes wrote: > > > On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 01:53:03PM +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote > > > > > > > I see what you mean. I'm just remerging @world with -nls, but it > > > > causes 95 rebuilds, including a lot of kde-frameworks packages, > > > > so I've copied my packages directory in case your fear is borne > > > > out. I'll let you know. > > > > > > > I run with "-nls" in make.conf, but in package.use I throw in > > > > > > "media-fonts/* nls" in order to keep xfreecell happy. > > > > Good idea. > > > > Time will tell whether plasma has lost anything. > > I meant to add that the only Russian language file I pruned by setting -nls > is /usr/share/binutils-data/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/2.34/locale/ru. Binutils > was remerged, so that one should have gone. Everything else is still there: > > # find / -xdev -name ru > /usr/share/help/ru > /usr/share/man/ru > /usr/share/espeak-data/voices/europe/ru > /usr/share/kf5/kdoctools/customization/ru > /usr/share/kf5/locale/countries/ru > /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/ru > /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/sun_vndr/ru > /usr/lib64/libreoffice/help/media/icon-themes/cmd/ru > /opt/zoom/timezones/ru > > I assume all those packages ignore language settings. That file /usr/share/ > help/ru belongs to kdoctools, which has just been remerged with -nls, so it > is clearly guilty. Likewise kconfigwidgets and app-editors/joe, which both > install /usr/share/man/ru. > > I can't evict espeak because two KDE PIM packages require it. You can, unless you need speech-dispatcher. $ grep espeak -r /etc/portage/ /etc/portage/package.use/espeak.use:app-accessibility/speech-dispatcher - espeak > Internationalisation has some way to go yet, it seems - or do I mean > localisation? --nextPart7760847.T7Z3S40VBb Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. 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