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From: Michael <confabulate@kintzios.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Why do we add the local host name to the 127.0.0.1 / ::1 entry in the /etc/hosts file?
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2021 16:38:59 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3035421.5fSG56mABF@lenovo.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAK2H+eecammjHRv4h+nLmYOd3K2ZPmieC7txc40KTNgZcicPpQ@mail.gmail.com>

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On Wednesday, 10 March 2021 16:00:19 GMT Mark Knecht wrote:
> <SNIP>
> 
> > mark@science:~$ cat /etc/hosts
> > 127.0.0.1       localhost
> > 127.0.1.1       science
> 
> <SNIP>
> <SNIP
> I think this is relevant to DNS resolution of/with domain controllers and
> may
> depend on the AD/DC topology.  The idea is to use the LAN address of the box
> as the first address in /etc/hosts and use 127.0.0.1 as the second address
> in
> the file.  If more AD/DNS servers exist in the network, then 127.0.0.1 could
> be even further down the list.
> 
> https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/previous-versions/windows/it-pro/windows-se
> rver-2008-R2-and-2008/ff807362(v=ws.10)?redirectedfrom=MSDN
> 
> I haven't over-thought this and there may be more to it, but on a pure linux
> environment I expect this would not be a requirement, hence the handbook
> approach.
> <SNIP>
> 
> It could very well be but I have vague memories when I first started
> getting
> interested in Linux, circa 1996-97 with Redhat, that I would buy books that
> liberally sprinkled http://localhost or ping localhost sorts of lines in
> the text and
> examples.
> 
> My undocumented (and unsupported by data) opinion is that this localhost
> thing has been around a long, long time - possibly longer than Linux for
> all I know. Check out
> 
> http://acme.com
> 
> I have no real admin experience with any version of Windows. Even though
> I wrote, published and made a tiny bit of money selling a Windows program
> written in Turbo Pascal in those days I didn't even have networking.
> Everything was passed around on floppies.

I always thought the localhost class A addresses were from days of old 'inter-
network' era.  The difference with 127.0.0.1 and a private LAN address is the 
127.0.0.1 does not reach the data link layer, but loops-back at IP layer 3 and 
responds to any applications on the local PC.  So, I understood this to mean 
it never went through the whole network stack, as it does when you ping a 
remote host.

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-10 16:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-21 22:23 [gentoo-user] Why do we add the local host name to the 127.0.0.1 / ::1 entry in the /etc/hosts file? Grant Taylor
2021-02-22  6:20 ` Andrew Udvare
2021-02-25  2:37 ` Peter Humphrey
2021-02-25  2:50   ` Grant Taylor
2021-02-25  7:02     ` Arve Barsnes
2021-02-25  7:33       ` Grant Taylor
2021-03-10  5:09 ` Grant Taylor
2021-03-10 13:27   ` Mark Knecht
2021-03-10 15:25     ` Michael
2021-03-10 16:00       ` Mark Knecht
2021-03-10 16:38         ` Michael [this message]
2021-03-10 17:07           ` Grant Taylor
2021-03-10 17:01         ` Grant Taylor
2021-03-10 16:58       ` Grant Taylor
2021-03-11 13:38         ` Michael
2021-03-11 16:50           ` Grant Taylor
2021-03-12 19:04             ` Michael
2021-03-13 19:01               ` Grant Taylor
2021-03-16 12:16                 ` Michael
2021-03-16 12:33                   ` Peter Humphrey
2021-03-16 18:54                   ` Grant Taylor
2021-03-11 17:04           ` Grant Taylor
2021-03-10 16:44     ` Grant Taylor
2021-03-10 17:43       ` Mark Knecht
2021-03-10 18:37         ` Grant Taylor
2021-03-11 10:54           ` Wols Lists

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