From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Qamrd-0007JM-DT for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 10:46:55 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DE55F1C052; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 10:45:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtpout.karoo.kcom.com (smtpout.karoo.kcom.com [212.50.160.34]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 853181C052 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 10:45:27 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.65,427,1304290800"; d="scan'208";a="781299344" Received: from 213-152-39-90.dsl.eclipse.net.uk (HELO compaq.stroller.uk.eu.org) ([213.152.39.90]) by smtpout.karoo.kcom.com with ESMTP; 26 Jun 2011 11:45:26 +0100 Received: from [192.168.1.102] (unknown [192.168.1.102]) by compaq.stroller.uk.eu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5032AAA310 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 11:40:32 +0100 (BST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1242) Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Do we have to build gcc with fortran now? From: Stroller In-Reply-To: <201106251458.56472.peter@humphrey.ukfsn.org> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 11:45:24 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <301F244C-BBD8-4F79-8615-EDA49CF4980D@stellar.eclipse.co.uk> References: <4E0167C4.9080100@gmail.com> <4E05CEDC.6060006@gmail.com> <4E05D8AB.10403@gentoo.org> <201106251458.56472.peter@humphrey.ukfsn.org> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1242) X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: dbf8e10b8fe04ee2f4e26e41cf333895 On 25 June 2011, at 14:58, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Saturday 25 June 2011 13:46:35 justin wrote: > ... >> Trying to avoid any fortran at all is stupid, >=20 > That's the sort of arrogance that gets developers a bad name. >=20 >> as already mentioned many math operations are faster if programmed in >> fortran. >=20 > Whether "many" operations are written in Fortran is immaterial. What = matters=20 > to me is whether any on my system are. If they aren't, I don't need a=20= > Fortran compiler and I'd rather not waste system resources on building = one. Please don't bitch out the devs - we have few enough of them as it is. I have a number of bugs open (on b.g.o), one or two of which have not = moved in months. The others are newer, and I assume they're are not = going to get fixed much faster, and I assume the reason is that there = just aren't the developer resources available. I mean, I could assume = that the devs just hate me, but that seems a pessimistic attitude. I'm = pretty sure they're not breaking things out of spite. None of my bugs are fixed as easily as recompiling a couple of packages = - I don't whine about trivial stuff like that - they all require manual = intervention and that I modify ebuilds myself and keep them in local. I = sunk several hours into this this weekend. I would be glad to bitch out the devs and say "why aren't you doing it = this way?", "why isn't this fixed yet?" but I don't feel I have any = right to. I'm reserving bitching out the devs until I can afford to pay = them money on a regular basis. What's your entitlement? Stroller.