Re: [gentoo-user] net-wireless/blueman-2.1_alpha2 blocked by net-wireless/gnome-bluetooth - is it necessary?

[Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com>]

On 09/12/2017 02:47, Alexey Eschenko wrote:
> Except that fact that I didn't unmasked it.

You must have had a tree checkout slightly newer than mine. I just
synced here and see that the mask has now been removed.

It's quite unusual to unmask an alpha version, maybe raise it on b.g.o ?

For the rest, that's just how blockers go unfortunately. There is no
easy way for the maintainer to communicate to you at emerge time *why*
the blocker is there, you just see the effect that it *is* there.

It's proper to block package B if new version of package A provides the
same features and they collide. But portage is stuck with nowhere to go
if you happen to have package B in world.

>> # fgrep -rni blueman /etc/portage
>> /etc/portage/package.use/blueman:1:#net-wireless/blueman
> But I understand other possible reasons.
> 
> On 12/08/2017 07:37 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>> On 08/12/2017 15:22, Alexey Eschenko wrote:
>>> It can be the issue. But older version (2.0.4) which is currently
>>> installed works fine and has no conflicts.
>>>
>>> It's quite strange.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/08/2017 03:39 PM, Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov wrote:
>>>>> Is it really necessary to block one package when another installed?
>>>> Most of the time, the reason to make packages to block each other is
>>>> collisions (if they they contain files (like binaries or libraries)
>>>> with same
>>>> install paths).
>>>>
>>>> Although, I can't guarantee that it was the case here.
>>>>
>>>> I've noticed that Gnome Team makes some decisions, that doesn't looks
>>>> logical
>>>> for a few times already.
>>>>
>>
>> It's not at all strange; it's quite ordinary actually.
>>
>> Keeping in mind that I do not use these packages, or gnome, look at the
>> available blueman packages:
>>
>> # eix net-wireless/blueman
>> * net-wireless/blueman
>>       Available versions:  (~)2.0.3 (~)2.0.4 [M](~)2.1_alpha1 **9999
>> {appindicator network nls policykit pulseaudio thunar
>> PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="python2_7 python3_4 python3_5 python3_6"
>> PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7 python3_4 python3_5 python3_6"}
>>
>> 2.1 is still in an alpha state, and it is p.masked:
>>
>> /var/portage/profiles/package.mask:
>> # Michał Górny <mgorny@gentoo.org> (26 Jan 2017)
>> # Pre-release, masked for testing. Major changes since 2.0.4,
>> # including dropped support for BlueZ 4.
>>
>> It is not unreasonable to conclude that blueman-2.1 intends to add
>> features that conflict with gnome-bluetooth and they can't co-exist. As
>> Vadim said, file collisions are often the underlying cause.
>>
>> You unmasked an alpha package, clearly tagged as "for testing". Nothing
>> add abut the result you got at all.
>>
>>
>>
> 


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