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Linux x86_64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/91.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.18.1 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------B372E09F82D68FD2D5AAC80D" X-Archives-Salt: d3466798-06c4-4bc6-b556-41ef9a663fad X-Archives-Hash: 12c287c56af6220d055b5e907de27a4f This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------B372E09F82D68FD2D5AAC80D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 07:26:30AM -0500 schrieb Dale: > >>>>>> If you don't play games, then definitely get integrated graphics. >>> I'd add to this, you could still play many games, especially older games using >>> a modern APU. The integrated graphics capability is broadly comparable with >>> the entry level discrete GPUs. For driving a couple of monitors and watching >>> videos an APU is more than adequate, saves money on a graphics card and >>> consumes less power. >>> >> The biggest reason I like a separate video card, I can upgrade if >> needed. > If you don’t play (big) games, then there is no reason to upgrade (except > if you plan on working with AI stuff). > >> Built in video means a new mobo. > No, a new CPU. The mobo only provides the lanes from the iGPU to the > connectors on the back. The only constraint imposed by the motherboard may > be an older version of the display link, like DisplayPort 1.2 instead of > 1.4. Only the latter supports 4K @ 120 Hz, the former tops out at 60 Hz. > >> I'd suspect even the wimpiest video card would do what I need. > In that case, every iGPU would do what you need. 🤡 The only exception may > be some hot new video hardware encoder. RDNA2, as can be found in Ryzen > 7000s, now supports AV1 decoding, which was still lacking in the 5000s. > > -- Grüße | Greetings | Salut | Qapla’ “Meow” “Woof” > Jeez, it’s really raining today! It would be my luck, the CPU would stop providing video somehow and take the lanes with it.  LOL  Still, I plan to go with on board video this time.  See how it works out.  It does have two ports like I need.  As long as I don't need any more ports for something, then it will work fine.  Thanks to both for the info.  Dale :-)  :-)  --------------B372E09F82D68FD2D5AAC80D Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
Am Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 07:26:30AM -0500 schrieb Dale:

If you don't play games, then definitely get integrated graphics.
I'd add to this, you could still play many games, especially older games using 
a modern APU.  The integrated graphics capability is broadly comparable with 
the entry level discrete GPUs.  For driving a couple of monitors and watching 
videos an APU is more than adequate, saves money on a graphics card and 
consumes less power.

The biggest reason I like a separate video card, I can upgrade if
needed.
If you don’t play (big) games, then there is no reason to upgrade (except 
if you plan on working with AI stuff).

Built in video means a new mobo.
No, a new CPU. The mobo only provides the lanes from the iGPU to the 
connectors on the back. The only constraint imposed by the motherboard may 
be an older version of the display link, like DisplayPort 1.2 instead of 
1.4. Only the latter supports 4K @ 120 Hz, the former tops out at 60 Hz.

I'd suspect even the wimpiest video card would do what I need.
In that case, every iGPU would do what you need. 🤡 The only exception may 
be some hot new video hardware encoder. RDNA2, as can be found in Ryzen 
7000s, now supports AV1 decoding, which was still lacking in the 5000s.

-- Grüße | Greetings | Salut | Qapla’ “Meow” <SPLAT!> “Woof” <SPLAT!> Jeez, it’s really raining today!


It would be my luck, the CPU would stop providing video somehow and take the lanes with it.  LOL  Still, I plan to go with on board video this time.  See how it works out.  It does have two ports like I need.  As long as I don't need any more ports for something, then it will work fine. 

Thanks to both for the info. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 
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