From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MbKGC-00036S-Dm for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 20:17:25 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D69DEE03EA; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 20:17:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtpout.karoo.kcom.com (smtpout.karoo.kcom.com [212.50.160.34]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96392E03EA for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 20:17:22 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.43,368,1246834800"; d="scan'208";a="118509003" Received: from unknown (HELO compaq.stroller.uk.eu.org) ([213.152.39.90]) by smtpout.karoo.kcom.com with ESMTP; 12 Aug 2009 21:17:21 +0100 Received: from [192.168.1.71] (unknown [192.168.1.71]) by compaq.stroller.uk.eu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26D7B137D2D for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 21:17:18 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <2FA4E683-920D-453C-B6E4-3AA7F3F82DF9@stellar.eclipse.co.uk> From: Stroller To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <4A82AADF.70600@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Knock on wood Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 21:17:19 +0100 References: <7bef1f890908112213r5a7e08a4k7703ca14a9d9bcfb@mail.gmail.com> <20090812091028.GA4887@ca.inter.net> <4A82AADF.70600@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Archives-Salt: 5b6b0365-39f5-45f5-853e-2aa68f3903a9 X-Archives-Hash: 8665056e0799f424703754f830e7f43e On 12 Aug 2009, at 12:43, bn wrote: >> ... >> Yes, that seems to be the usual reason users leave Gentoo: >> like owning a dog, you have to find time to maintain/exercise it. > > I am starting to be in trouble using Gentoo for this very reason. ... > > So I am becoming very reluctant in updating critical components -one > example is my kernel, which is basically untouched since I > installed, in > late 2007. I know it's counterproductive, because the more I wait, the > worse it is, but it's always a matter of time, and I don't have that > time -not to update per se, which I have, but to face problems in case > critical updates don't go smooth. > > Any advice on this kind of situation? I would rather not buy a "backup > laptop". Don't worry. After you've *once* fallen behind far enough, you won't make this mistake again! The kernel is the *easiest* part to keep up to date, IMO. You can easily reboot & go back to the old one. For me, it's other software packages which can become the problem. Stroller.