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Can't figure out why. ISP?? To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org From: "J. Roeleveld" Message-ID: <2A1D21F7-7C7A-4D88-8B79-124E7C30C747@antarean.org> X-Archives-Salt: db1b6c40-fdc6-4d83-bac2-1cec966032dc X-Archives-Hash: 33616b7f59078f0165e7f83fa62a39f7 On 7 April 2020 21:40:56 CEST, Grant Edwards wrote: >On 2020-04-07, Michael wrote: >> On Tuesday, 7 April 2020 05:55:06 BST J=2E Roeleveld wrote: >>> On Tuesday, April 7, 2020 5:54:25 AM CEST Ian Zimmerman wrote: >>> > On 2020-04-06 22:14, Dale wrote: >>> > > I have DSL and it isn't to fast to begin with=2E At >>> > > times tho, I'm only getting about 20 or 30% of what I should=2E >>> >=20 >>> > Are you often on the phone at those times? May it be poor >filtering? >>> >=20 >>> > At my last residence - also "in the sticks", LOL - we had to give >up on >>> > DSL completely, because 6 times out of 10 when we got a phone call >the >>> > internet dropped=2E Seriously=2E We're not proud to support the >Comcast >>> > monopoly, but what a difference=2E >>>=20 >>> This is likely caused by NOT having a filter for every device=2E >>>=20 >>> Longer version: >>>=20 >>> DSL requires a splitter/filter between the wall-socket (where the >phone >>> normally plugs in) and the DSL modem=2E It also has a 2nd connection >for the >>> phone=2E >> >> It is not the ADSL modem which requires the filter, but the analogue=20 >> telephone=2E > >My experience with multiple different installations is that lack of a >filter can pretty much kill the ADSL signal and redner the DSL mode >useless=2E > > >> The filter cuts out audible frequencies so you can't hear them=20 >> when you're making a call=2E > >In my experience, it often also prevents the phones and connected >lines from presenting such a screwed up impedance to the DSL signal >that DSL stops working=2E > >-- >Grant The only time I have seen DSL work without a filter is when the modem is c= onnected directly to the incoming port and no analog device can be connecte= d anywhere in the line=2E That location gets 60meg down and 20meg up=2E I am also 100=C3=B7 certain noone can connect an analog phone as there is = no plug available=2E Reason why I said a filter is needed everywhere is because I have seen loc= ations where the ADSL router was behind a filter, but the phone, connected = to a different port, was not behind a filter=2E The occupant of that house were quick to blame the router and ISP, but had= difficulty realising the consistency of the connection dropping as soon as= someone picked up the phone or the phone starting to ring=2E -- Joost --=20 Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail=2E Please excuse my brevity=2E