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Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/68.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.14 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------6A722DAC8181861F09F22AEE" X-Archives-Salt: 8b77b4e5-6624-48f3-8786-1dbac164c99d X-Archives-Hash: 0feef594fd87600c9a23f8c46a4ce236 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------6A722DAC8181861F09F22AEE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Mark Knecht wrote: > > > On Sun, Dec 18, 2022 at 8:49 AM Jack > wrote: > > > > On 12/18/22 10:38, Mark Knecht wrote: > > > Wipe the machine and start over with Gentoo from scratch... > > > Wipe the machine and start over with Gentoo from scratch... > > > Humm, I think you should... > > > Wipe the machine and start over with Gentoo from scratch... > > > > First there was Linux from Scratch. > > > > Next came Beyond Linux from Scratch. > > > > Then there was Gentoo. > > > > Now, the latest, greatest installment: Gentoo from Scratch. > > > > Gawd, that's funny! Thanks for making me smile, assuming I found what > you're talking about: > > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Gentoo_ebuild_tree_from_scratch > > Just what every Gentoo user needs. More management! > > I really have fallen off the deep end thinking computers are just > tools to get a job done. I'm ashamed of myself... > > In the really early days of Gentoo circa 2003 when I started there was > some choice about regular Gentoo or a really low level install. I > failed with the low level one but soon learned that every package on > my machine was going to get rebuilt anyway so why bother? > > :-( Sad Mark. I'm a putz... It is connected properly.  Everything I have is 1GB now.  When I got fiber internet, I had to upgrade everything.  With the old DSL, well, even a 10MB card would have worked.  lol  See other reply that has more info.  I'm pretty sure it is the encryption maxing out the CPU.  It's really the only thing that is working hard.  Everything else seems to be doing more waiting than anything.  I just might find a simple distro that I can install on that thing.  Honestly, I don't really care what is on it as long as it does what I want and I can figure out how to make it work easily enough.  Still, I wouldn't want Gentoo on a rig that slow.  I wouldn't have GUI stuff like KDE, Firefox, libreoffice on it so that would save a lot of time but still, even a headless machine would require some compile times.  Heck, Ubuntu, Arch or any number of other distros would likely work just fine.  Mostly, I need a better CPU.  If I encrypt anyway.  This will work for the time being.  Now that I figured out how to make it work.  ROFL Dale :-)  --------------6A722DAC8181861F09F22AEE Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Mark Knecht wrote:


On Sun, Dec 18, 2022 at 8:49 AM Jack <ostroffjh@users.sourceforge.net> wrote:
>
> On 12/18/22 10:38, Mark Knecht wrote:
> > Wipe the machine and start over with Gentoo from scratch...
> > Wipe the machine and start over with Gentoo from scratch...
> > Humm, I think you should...
> > Wipe the machine and start over with Gentoo from scratch...
>
> First there was Linux from Scratch.
>
> Next came Beyond Linux from Scratch.
>
> Then there was Gentoo.
>
> Now, the latest, greatest installment: Gentoo from Scratch.
>

Gawd, that's funny! Thanks for making me smile, assuming I found what you're talking about:


Just what every Gentoo user needs. More management!

I really have fallen off the deep end thinking computers are just tools to get a job done. I'm ashamed of myself...

In the really early days of Gentoo circa 2003 when I started there was some choice about regular Gentoo or a really low level install. I failed with the low level one but soon learned that every package on my machine was going to get rebuilt anyway so why bother?

:-( Sad Mark. I'm a putz...

It is connected properly.  Everything I have is 1GB now.  When I got fiber internet, I had to upgrade everything.  With the old DSL, well, even a 10MB card would have worked.  lol 

See other reply that has more info.  I'm pretty sure it is the encryption maxing out the CPU.  It's really the only thing that is working hard.  Everything else seems to be doing more waiting than anything. 

I just might find a simple distro that I can install on that thing.  Honestly, I don't really care what is on it as long as it does what I want and I can figure out how to make it work easily enough.  Still, I wouldn't want Gentoo on a rig that slow.  I wouldn't have GUI stuff like KDE, Firefox, libreoffice on it so that would save a lot of time but still, even a headless machine would require some compile times.  Heck, Ubuntu, Arch or any number of other distros would likely work just fine.  Mostly, I need a better CPU.  If I encrypt anyway. 

This will work for the time being.  Now that I figured out how to make it work.  ROFL

Dale

:-) 
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