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From: Joost Roeleveld <joost@antarean.org>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} rdiff-backup: push or pull?
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 08:13:12 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2884643.h5uTXF1KYh@eve> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAN0CFw2G3CyXZXz+yFFavhqGz1qA4mKGiKQ1AkRz0+OiFVzuBA@mail.gmail.com>

On Thursday, August 18, 2011 06:51:32 PM Grant wrote:
> >> I'm setting up an automated rdiff-backup system and I'm stuck between
> >> pushing the backups to the backup server, and pulling the backups to
> >> the backup server.  If I push, I have to allow read/write access of my
> >> backups via SSH keys.  If I pull, I have to enable root logins on each
> >> system to be backed-up, allow root read access of each system via SSH
> >> keys, and I have to deal with openvpn or ssh -R so my laptop can back
> >> up from behind foreign routers.  The conventional wisdom online seems
> >> to indicate pulling is better, but pushing seems like it might be
> >> better to me.  Do you push or pull?
> > 
> > I would push, to be honest.
> 
> What can be done about the fact that any attacker who can break into a
> system and wipe it out can also wipe out its backups?  That negates
> one of the reasons for making the backups in the first place.

True, except if, after a backup is finished, you move the actual backup to a 
different location. (Or you backup the backup server)

I store all important files on my server and the backups there can not be 
accessed from the fileserver itself. (That backup is done in "pull" mode every 
night.)

> Should private SSH keys be excluded from the backup?  Should anything
> else be excluded?

When a host is compromised, the corresponding entries in the "authorized_keys" 
should be removed from all other servers/hosts. This will make those private 
keys useless.

If you protect them with a passphrase, the private keys are not usable in any 
case. But this will require the backups to be started manually to allow you to 
enter the passphrase.
Or you unlock the passphrase in memory and use ssh-agent for that.

--
Joost



  reply	other threads:[~2011-08-19  6:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-08-16  4:58 [gentoo-user] {OT} rdiff-backup: push or pull? Grant
2011-08-16  6:35 ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-08-16 23:50   ` Grant
2011-08-17  6:07     ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-08-17 17:18       ` Grant
2011-08-18  6:13         ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-08-19  1:01           ` Grant
2011-08-19  6:07             ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-08-19 17:13               ` Grant
2011-08-17  6:14     ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-08-17 17:35       ` Grant
2011-08-19 17:14         ` Michael Orlitzky
2011-08-19 18:00           ` Grant
2011-08-19 19:06             ` Michael Orlitzky
2011-08-19 19:58               ` Grant
2011-08-20  8:12                 ` Alan McKinnon
2011-08-17  6:15     ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-08-17 17:37       ` Grant
2011-08-17 18:54       ` Alex Schuster
2011-08-17 20:47         ` Grant
2011-08-17 21:49           ` Alex Schuster
2011-08-17 22:03             ` Alan McKinnon
2011-08-18  0:35               ` Peter Humphrey
2011-08-18  6:30             ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-08-19  1:51   ` Grant
2011-08-19  6:13     ` Joost Roeleveld [this message]
2011-08-19 17:35       ` Grant
2011-08-21 19:10         ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-08-16 13:39 ` Bill Longman
2011-08-16 14:04   ` Alan McKinnon

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