[gentoo-user] nepomuk gone, baloo enters

[gentoo-user] nepomuk gone, baloo enters

[Francisco Ares]

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Hi,

In fact, I can only suppose there's something related to changing from
nepomuk to baloo:

Now, every time I log in, a window pops up asking for root password.  The
window title is "PolicyKit - KDE" and pressing the button "Details", it
shows:

Action: Folder Watch Limit
polkit.subject-pid:    5254
polkit.caller-pid:     6699

Looking for those PIDs:

~ $ ps -A | grep 5254
 5254 ?        00:00:07 baloo_file

and PID 6699 doesn't show up any more, probably the process has already
ended.

Did I miss something? How do I set up Baloo? Looking on the net, I only
found how to set up a file ~/.kde4/share/config/nepomukserverrc (that was
nonexistent, which seemed strange), is there something else regarding the
database it might be willing to use?

Thank you all.
Francisco

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Re: [gentoo-user] nepomuk gone, baloo enters

[J. Roeleveld]

On Friday, August 21, 2015 10:06:15 AM Francisco Ares wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> In fact, I can only suppose there's something related to changing from
> nepomuk to baloo:
> 
> Now, every time I log in, a window pops up asking for root password.  The
> window title is "PolicyKit - KDE" and pressing the button "Details", it
> shows:
> 
> Action: Folder Watch Limit
> polkit.subject-pid:    5254
> polkit.caller-pid:     6699
> 
> Looking for those PIDs:
> 
> ~ $ ps -A | grep 5254
>  5254 ?        00:00:07 baloo_file
> 
> and PID 6699 doesn't show up any more, probably the process has already
> ended.
> 
> Did I miss something? How do I set up Baloo? Looking on the net, I only
> found how to set up a file ~/.kde4/share/config/nepomukserverrc (that was
> nonexistent, which seemed strange), is there something else regarding the
> database it might be willing to use?


Nepomuk, and now Baloo, want to open file-watchers on your system to get 
change-notifications directly from the kernel (filesystem driver), instead of 
polling the filesystem.
This is actually better, performance wise.

To avoid these message, I created the following file a long time ago:

% cat /etc/sysctl.d/97-kde-nepomuk-filewatch-inotify.conf 
fs.inotify.max_user_watches = 65536

Guess I will need to change the name of that file now :)

Kind regards,

Joost

Re: [gentoo-user] nepomuk gone, baloo enters

[Francisco Ares]

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2015-08-21 10:31 GMT-03:00 J. Roeleveld <joost@antarean.org>:

> On Friday, August 21, 2015 10:06:15 AM Francisco Ares wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > In fact, I can only suppose there's something related to changing from
> > nepomuk to baloo:
> >
> > Now, every time I log in, a window pops up asking for root password.  The
> > window title is "PolicyKit - KDE" and pressing the button "Details", it
> > shows:
> >
> > Action: Folder Watch Limit
> > polkit.subject-pid:    5254
> > polkit.caller-pid:     6699
> >
> > Looking for those PIDs:
> >
> > ~ $ ps -A | grep 5254
> >  5254 ?        00:00:07 baloo_file
> >
> > and PID 6699 doesn't show up any more, probably the process has already
> > ended.
> >
> > Did I miss something? How do I set up Baloo? Looking on the net, I only
> > found how to set up a file ~/.kde4/share/config/nepomukserverrc (that was
> > nonexistent, which seemed strange), is there something else regarding the
> > database it might be willing to use?
>
>
> Nepomuk, and now Baloo, want to open file-watchers on your system to get
> change-notifications directly from the kernel (filesystem driver), instead
> of
> polling the filesystem.
> This is actually better, performance wise.
>
> To avoid these message, I created the following file a long time ago:
>
> % cat /etc/sysctl.d/97-kde-nepomuk-filewatch-inotify.conf
> fs.inotify.max_user_watches = 65536
>
> Guess I will need to change the name of that file now :)
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Joost
>
>

Thank you, Joost.

Best Regards,
Francisco

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Re: [gentoo-user] nepomuk gone, baloo enters

[Francisco Ares]

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2015-08-21 10:49 GMT-03:00 Francisco Ares <frares@gmail.com>:

> 2015-08-21 10:31 GMT-03:00 J. Roeleveld <joost@antarean.org>:
>
>> On Friday, August 21, 2015 10:06:15 AM Francisco Ares wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > In fact, I can only suppose there's something related to changing from
>> > nepomuk to baloo:
>> >
>> > Now, every time I log in, a window pops up asking for root password.
>> The
>> > window title is "PolicyKit - KDE" and pressing the button "Details", it
>> > shows:
>> >
>> > Action: Folder Watch Limit
>> > polkit.subject-pid:    5254
>> > polkit.caller-pid:     6699
>> >
>> > Looking for those PIDs:
>> >
>> > ~ $ ps -A | grep 5254
>> >  5254 ?        00:00:07 baloo_file
>> >
>> > and PID 6699 doesn't show up any more, probably the process has already
>> > ended.
>> >
>> > Did I miss something? How do I set up Baloo? Looking on the net, I only
>> > found how to set up a file ~/.kde4/share/config/nepomukserverrc (that
>> was
>> > nonexistent, which seemed strange), is there something else regarding
>> the
>> > database it might be willing to use?
>>
>>
>> Nepomuk, and now Baloo, want to open file-watchers on your system to get
>> change-notifications directly from the kernel (filesystem driver),
>> instead of
>> polling the filesystem.
>> This is actually better, performance wise.
>>
>> To avoid these message, I created the following file a long time ago:
>>
>> % cat /etc/sysctl.d/97-kde-nepomuk-filewatch-inotify.conf
>> fs.inotify.max_user_watches = 65536
>>
>> Guess I will need to change the name of that file now :)
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Joost
>>
>>
>
> Thank you, Joost.
>
> Best Regards,
> Francisco
>


Checking on the file pointed by Joost, I've found it on my filesystem), but
there is another file, an almost exact copy, for baloo:

~ # l /etc/sysctl.d/
total 28K
drwxr-xr-x   2 root root 4,0K Ago 21 10:50 ./
drwxr-xr-x 160 root root  12K Ago 21 10:22 ../
-rw-r--r--   1 root root   36 Ago 21 09:16
97-kde-baloo-filewatch-inotify.conf

-rw-r--r--   1 root root   36 Mai  7  2014
97-kde-nepomuk-filewatch-inotify.conf


~ # cat /etc/sysctl.d/97-kde-*
fs.inotify.max_user_watches = 65536
fs.inotify.max_user_watches = 32768



The first value (65536) is from 97-kde-baloo-filewatch-inotify.conf .  The
second (32768) is from 97-kde-nepomuk-filewatch-inotify.conf.

So, the mystery goes on...

Thanks,
Francisco

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Re: [gentoo-user] nepomuk gone, baloo enters

[J. Roeleveld]

On Friday, August 21, 2015 10:56:58 AM Francisco Ares wrote:
> 2015-08-21 10:49 GMT-03:00 Francisco Ares <frares@gmail.com>:
> > 2015-08-21 10:31 GMT-03:00 J. Roeleveld <joost@antarean.org>:
> >> On Friday, August 21, 2015 10:06:15 AM Francisco Ares wrote:
> >> > Hi,
> >> > 
> >> > In fact, I can only suppose there's something related to changing from
> >> > nepomuk to baloo:
> >> > 
> >> > Now, every time I log in, a window pops up asking for root password.
> >> 
> >> The
> >> 
> >> > window title is "PolicyKit - KDE" and pressing the button "Details", it
> >> > shows:
> >> > 
> >> > Action: Folder Watch Limit
> >> > polkit.subject-pid:    5254
> >> > polkit.caller-pid:     6699
> >> > 
> >> > Looking for those PIDs:
> >> > 
> >> > ~ $ ps -A | grep 5254
> >> > 
> >> >  5254 ?        00:00:07 baloo_file
> >> > 
> >> > and PID 6699 doesn't show up any more, probably the process has already
> >> > ended.
> >> > 
> >> > Did I miss something? How do I set up Baloo? Looking on the net, I only
> >> > found how to set up a file ~/.kde4/share/config/nepomukserverrc (that
> >> 
> >> was
> >> 
> >> > nonexistent, which seemed strange), is there something else regarding
> >> 
> >> the
> >> 
> >> > database it might be willing to use?
> >> 
> >> Nepomuk, and now Baloo, want to open file-watchers on your system to get
> >> change-notifications directly from the kernel (filesystem driver),
> >> instead of
> >> polling the filesystem.
> >> This is actually better, performance wise.
> >> 
> >> To avoid these message, I created the following file a long time ago:
> >> 
> >> % cat /etc/sysctl.d/97-kde-nepomuk-filewatch-inotify.conf
> >> fs.inotify.max_user_watches = 65536
> >> 
> >> Guess I will need to change the name of that file now :)
> >> 
> >> Kind regards,
> >> 
> >> Joost
> > 
> > Thank you, Joost.
> > 
> > Best Regards,
> > Francisco
> 
> Checking on the file pointed by Joost, I've found it on my filesystem), but
> there is another file, an almost exact copy, for baloo:
> 
> ~ # l /etc/sysctl.d/
> total 28K
> drwxr-xr-x   2 root root 4,0K Ago 21 10:50 ./
> drwxr-xr-x 160 root root  12K Ago 21 10:22 ../
> -rw-r--r--   1 root root   36 Ago 21 09:16
> 97-kde-baloo-filewatch-inotify.conf
> 
> -rw-r--r--   1 root root   36 Mai  7  2014
> 97-kde-nepomuk-filewatch-inotify.conf
> 
> 
> ~ # cat /etc/sysctl.d/97-kde-*
> fs.inotify.max_user_watches = 65536
> fs.inotify.max_user_watches = 32768
> 
> 
> 
> The first value (65536) is from 97-kde-baloo-filewatch-inotify.conf .  The
> second (32768) is from 97-kde-nepomuk-filewatch-inotify.conf.
> 
> So, the mystery goes on...
> 
> Thanks,
> Francisco

what does:
% cat /proc/sys/fs/inotify/max_user_watches
give you?

My guess: 32768 (as that's the last one it will find)
On my system I get 65536.

I think if you were to remove the nepomuk file, it should work.

--
Joost

Re: [gentoo-user] nepomuk gone, baloo enters

[Francisco Ares]

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2015-08-21 11:02 GMT-03:00 J. Roeleveld <joost@antarean.org>:

> On Friday, August 21, 2015 10:56:58 AM Francisco Ares wrote:
> > 2015-08-21 10:49 GMT-03:00 Francisco Ares <frares@gmail.com>:
> > > 2015-08-21 10:31 GMT-03:00 J. Roeleveld <joost@antarean.org>:
> > >> On Friday, August 21, 2015 10:06:15 AM Francisco Ares wrote:
> > >> > Hi,
> > >> >
> > >> > In fact, I can only suppose there's something related to changing
> from
> > >> > nepomuk to baloo:
> > >> >
> > >> > Now, every time I log in, a window pops up asking for root password.
> > >>
> > >> The
> > >>
> > >> > window title is "PolicyKit - KDE" and pressing the button
> "Details", it
> > >> > shows:
> > >> >
> > >> > Action: Folder Watch Limit
> > >> > polkit.subject-pid:    5254
> > >> > polkit.caller-pid:     6699
> > >> >
> > >> > Looking for those PIDs:
> > >> >
> > >> > ~ $ ps -A | grep 5254
> > >> >
> > >> >  5254 ?        00:00:07 baloo_file
> > >> >
> > >> > and PID 6699 doesn't show up any more, probably the process has
> already
> > >> > ended.
> > >> >
> > >> > Did I miss something? How do I set up Baloo? Looking on the net, I
> only
> > >> > found how to set up a file ~/.kde4/share/config/nepomukserverrc
> (that
> > >>
> > >> was
> > >>
> > >> > nonexistent, which seemed strange), is there something else
> regarding
> > >>
> > >> the
> > >>
> > >> > database it might be willing to use?
> > >>
> > >> Nepomuk, and now Baloo, want to open file-watchers on your system to
> get
> > >> change-notifications directly from the kernel (filesystem driver),
> > >> instead of
> > >> polling the filesystem.
> > >> This is actually better, performance wise.
> > >>
> > >> To avoid these message, I created the following file a long time ago:
> > >>
> > >> % cat /etc/sysctl.d/97-kde-nepomuk-filewatch-inotify.conf
> > >> fs.inotify.max_user_watches = 65536
> > >>
> > >> Guess I will need to change the name of that file now :)
> > >>
> > >> Kind regards,
> > >>
> > >> Joost
> > >
> > > Thank you, Joost.
> > >
> > > Best Regards,
> > > Francisco
> >
> > Checking on the file pointed by Joost, I've found it on my filesystem),
> but
> > there is another file, an almost exact copy, for baloo:
> >
> > ~ # l /etc/sysctl.d/
> > total 28K
> > drwxr-xr-x   2 root root 4,0K Ago 21 10:50 ./
> > drwxr-xr-x 160 root root  12K Ago 21 10:22 ../
> > -rw-r--r--   1 root root   36 Ago 21 09:16
> > 97-kde-baloo-filewatch-inotify.conf
> >
> > -rw-r--r--   1 root root   36 Mai  7  2014
> > 97-kde-nepomuk-filewatch-inotify.conf
> >
> >
> > ~ # cat /etc/sysctl.d/97-kde-*
> > fs.inotify.max_user_watches = 65536
> > fs.inotify.max_user_watches = 32768
> >
> >
> >
> > The first value (65536) is from 97-kde-baloo-filewatch-inotify.conf .
> The
> > second (32768) is from 97-kde-nepomuk-filewatch-inotify.conf.
> >
> > So, the mystery goes on...
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Francisco
>
> what does:
> % cat /proc/sys/fs/inotify/max_user_watches
> give you?
>
> My guess: 32768 (as that's the last one it will find)
> On my system I get 65536.
>
> I think if you were to remove the nepomuk file, it should work.
>
> --
> Joost
>
>

Unexpected:

~ $ cat /proc/sys/fs/inotify/max_user_watches
131072

both as a regular user an as root.

Going to search for this number on config files.

Thanks for the clue.

Francisco

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Re: [gentoo-user] nepomuk gone, baloo enters

[Francisco Ares]

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2015-08-21 11:30 GMT-03:00 Francisco Ares <frares@gmail.com>:

> 2015-08-21 11:02 GMT-03:00 J. Roeleveld <joost@antarean.org>:
>
>> On Friday, August 21, 2015 10:56:58 AM Francisco Ares wrote:
>> > 2015-08-21 10:49 GMT-03:00 Francisco Ares <frares@gmail.com>:
>> > > 2015-08-21 10:31 GMT-03:00 J. Roeleveld <joost@antarean.org>:
>> > >> On Friday, August 21, 2015 10:06:15 AM Francisco Ares wrote:
>> > >> > Hi,
>> > >> >
>> > >> > In fact, I can only suppose there's something related to changing
>> from
>> > >> > nepomuk to baloo:
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Now, every time I log in, a window pops up asking for root
>> password.
>> > >>
>> > >> The
>> > >>
>> > >> > window title is "PolicyKit - KDE" and pressing the button
>> "Details", it
>> > >> > shows:
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Action: Folder Watch Limit
>> > >> > polkit.subject-pid:    5254
>> > >> > polkit.caller-pid:     6699
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Looking for those PIDs:
>> > >> >
>> > >> > ~ $ ps -A | grep 5254
>> > >> >
>> > >> >  5254 ?        00:00:07 baloo_file
>> > >> >
>> > >> > and PID 6699 doesn't show up any more, probably the process has
>> already
>> > >> > ended.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Did I miss something? How do I set up Baloo? Looking on the net, I
>> only
>> > >> > found how to set up a file ~/.kde4/share/config/nepomukserverrc
>> (that
>> > >>
>> > >> was
>> > >>
>> > >> > nonexistent, which seemed strange), is there something else
>> regarding
>> > >>
>> > >> the
>> > >>
>> > >> > database it might be willing to use?
>> > >>
>> > >> Nepomuk, and now Baloo, want to open file-watchers on your system to
>> get
>> > >> change-notifications directly from the kernel (filesystem driver),
>> > >> instead of
>> > >> polling the filesystem.
>> > >> This is actually better, performance wise.
>> > >>
>> > >> To avoid these message, I created the following file a long time ago:
>> > >>
>> > >> % cat /etc/sysctl.d/97-kde-nepomuk-filewatch-inotify.conf
>> > >> fs.inotify.max_user_watches = 65536
>> > >>
>> > >> Guess I will need to change the name of that file now :)
>> > >>
>> > >> Kind regards,
>> > >>
>> > >> Joost
>> > >
>> > > Thank you, Joost.
>> > >
>> > > Best Regards,
>> > > Francisco
>> >
>> > Checking on the file pointed by Joost, I've found it on my filesystem),
>> but
>> > there is another file, an almost exact copy, for baloo:
>> >
>> > ~ # l /etc/sysctl.d/
>> > total 28K
>> > drwxr-xr-x   2 root root 4,0K Ago 21 10:50 ./
>> > drwxr-xr-x 160 root root  12K Ago 21 10:22 ../
>> > -rw-r--r--   1 root root   36 Ago 21 09:16
>> > 97-kde-baloo-filewatch-inotify.conf
>> >
>> > -rw-r--r--   1 root root   36 Mai  7  2014
>> > 97-kde-nepomuk-filewatch-inotify.conf
>> >
>> >
>> > ~ # cat /etc/sysctl.d/97-kde-*
>> > fs.inotify.max_user_watches = 65536
>> > fs.inotify.max_user_watches = 32768
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > The first value (65536) is from 97-kde-baloo-filewatch-inotify.conf .
>> The
>> > second (32768) is from 97-kde-nepomuk-filewatch-inotify.conf.
>> >
>> > So, the mystery goes on...
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Francisco
>>
>> what does:
>> % cat /proc/sys/fs/inotify/max_user_watches
>> give you?
>>
>> My guess: 32768 (as that's the last one it will find)
>> On my system I get 65536.
>>
>> I think if you were to remove the nepomuk file, it should work.
>>
>> --
>> Joost
>>
>>
>
> Unexpected:
>
> ~ $ cat /proc/sys/fs/inotify/max_user_watches
> 131072
>
> both as a regular user an as root.
>
> Going to search for this number on config files.
>
> Thanks for the clue.
>
> Francisco
>



Also unexpected:

~ # cd /etc
etc # fgrep -R 131072 * 2> /dev/null
apache2/modules.d/10_mod_mem_cache.conf:MCacheSize 131072
sane.d/sharp.conf:option buffersize 131072
sysctl.d/97-kde-baloo-filewatch-inotify.conf:fs.inotify.max_user_watches =
131072


I have logged out and back in, to check for the effects on that window
asking for root password.  It did show up again, and now the
file 97-kde-baloo-filewatch-inotify.conf has been changed.

Going to try again, after removing 97-kde-nepomuk-filewatch-inotify.conf.
Back soon...

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Re: [gentoo-user] nepomuk gone, baloo enters

[J. Roeleveld]

On 21 August 2015 16:39:12 CEST, Francisco Ares <frares@gmail.com> wrote:
>2015-08-21 11:30 GMT-03:00 Francisco Ares <frares@gmail.com>:
>
>> 2015-08-21 11:02 GMT-03:00 J. Roeleveld <joost@antarean.org>:
>>
>>> On Friday, August 21, 2015 10:56:58 AM Francisco Ares wrote:
>>> > 2015-08-21 10:49 GMT-03:00 Francisco Ares <frares@gmail.com>:
>>> > > 2015-08-21 10:31 GMT-03:00 J. Roeleveld <joost@antarean.org>:
>>> > >> On Friday, August 21, 2015 10:06:15 AM Francisco Ares wrote:
>>> > >> > Hi,
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > In fact, I can only suppose there's something related to
>changing
>>> from
>>> > >> > nepomuk to baloo:
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > Now, every time I log in, a window pops up asking for root
>>> password.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> The
>>> > >>
>>> > >> > window title is "PolicyKit - KDE" and pressing the button
>>> "Details", it
>>> > >> > shows:
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > Action: Folder Watch Limit
>>> > >> > polkit.subject-pid:    5254
>>> > >> > polkit.caller-pid:     6699
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > Looking for those PIDs:
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > ~ $ ps -A | grep 5254
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> >  5254 ?        00:00:07 baloo_file
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > and PID 6699 doesn't show up any more, probably the process
>has
>>> already
>>> > >> > ended.
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > Did I miss something? How do I set up Baloo? Looking on the
>net, I
>>> only
>>> > >> > found how to set up a file
>~/.kde4/share/config/nepomukserverrc
>>> (that
>>> > >>
>>> > >> was
>>> > >>
>>> > >> > nonexistent, which seemed strange), is there something else
>>> regarding
>>> > >>
>>> > >> the
>>> > >>
>>> > >> > database it might be willing to use?
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Nepomuk, and now Baloo, want to open file-watchers on your
>system to
>>> get
>>> > >> change-notifications directly from the kernel (filesystem
>driver),
>>> > >> instead of
>>> > >> polling the filesystem.
>>> > >> This is actually better, performance wise.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> To avoid these message, I created the following file a long
>time ago:
>>> > >>
>>> > >> % cat /etc/sysctl.d/97-kde-nepomuk-filewatch-inotify.conf
>>> > >> fs.inotify.max_user_watches = 65536
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Guess I will need to change the name of that file now :)
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Kind regards,
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Joost
>>> > >
>>> > > Thank you, Joost.
>>> > >
>>> > > Best Regards,
>>> > > Francisco
>>> >
>>> > Checking on the file pointed by Joost, I've found it on my
>filesystem),
>>> but
>>> > there is another file, an almost exact copy, for baloo:
>>> >
>>> > ~ # l /etc/sysctl.d/
>>> > total 28K
>>> > drwxr-xr-x   2 root root 4,0K Ago 21 10:50 ./
>>> > drwxr-xr-x 160 root root  12K Ago 21 10:22 ../
>>> > -rw-r--r--   1 root root   36 Ago 21 09:16
>>> > 97-kde-baloo-filewatch-inotify.conf
>>> >
>>> > -rw-r--r--   1 root root   36 Mai  7  2014
>>> > 97-kde-nepomuk-filewatch-inotify.conf
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ~ # cat /etc/sysctl.d/97-kde-*
>>> > fs.inotify.max_user_watches = 65536
>>> > fs.inotify.max_user_watches = 32768
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > The first value (65536) is from
>97-kde-baloo-filewatch-inotify.conf .
>>> The
>>> > second (32768) is from 97-kde-nepomuk-filewatch-inotify.conf.
>>> >
>>> > So, the mystery goes on...
>>> >
>>> > Thanks,
>>> > Francisco
>>>
>>> what does:
>>> % cat /proc/sys/fs/inotify/max_user_watches
>>> give you?
>>>
>>> My guess: 32768 (as that's the last one it will find)
>>> On my system I get 65536.
>>>
>>> I think if you were to remove the nepomuk file, it should work.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Joost
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Unexpected:
>>
>> ~ $ cat /proc/sys/fs/inotify/max_user_watches
>> 131072
>>
>> both as a regular user an as root.
>>
>> Going to search for this number on config files.
>>
>> Thanks for the clue.
>>
>> Francisco
>>
>
>
>
>Also unexpected:
>
>~ # cd /etc
>etc # fgrep -R 131072 * 2> /dev/null
>apache2/modules.d/10_mod_mem_cache.conf:MCacheSize 131072
>sane.d/sharp.conf:option buffersize 131072
>sysctl.d/97-kde-baloo-filewatch-inotify.conf:fs.inotify.max_user_watches
>=
>131072
>
>
>I have logged out and back in, to check for the effects on that window
>asking for root password.  It did show up again, and now the
>file 97-kde-baloo-filewatch-inotify.conf has been changed.
>
>Going to try again, after removing
>97-kde-nepomuk-filewatch-inotify.conf.
>Back soon...

Just a guess.
I think when you provide the root password 2 things happen:
That value gets increased on the fly (inside /proc/sys/....)
And the baloo-file gets updated as well.

-- 
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

Re: [gentoo-user] nepomuk gone, baloo enters

[Francisco Ares]

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2015-08-21 11:39 GMT-03:00 Francisco Ares <frares@gmail.com>:

> 2015-08-21 11:30 GMT-03:00 Francisco Ares <frares@gmail.com>:
>
>> 2015-08-21 11:02 GMT-03:00 J. Roeleveld <joost@antarean.org>:
>>
>>> On Friday, August 21, 2015 10:56:58 AM Francisco Ares wrote:
>>> > 2015-08-21 10:49 GMT-03:00 Francisco Ares <frares@gmail.com>:
>>> > > 2015-08-21 10:31 GMT-03:00 J. Roeleveld <joost@antarean.org>:
>>> > >> On Friday, August 21, 2015 10:06:15 AM Francisco Ares wrote:
>>> > >> > Hi,
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > In fact, I can only suppose there's something related to changing
>>> from
>>> > >> > nepomuk to baloo:
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > Now, every time I log in, a window pops up asking for root
>>> password.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> The
>>> > >>
>>> > >> > window title is "PolicyKit - KDE" and pressing the button
>>> "Details", it
>>> > >> > shows:
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > Action: Folder Watch Limit
>>> > >> > polkit.subject-pid:    5254
>>> > >> > polkit.caller-pid:     6699
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > Looking for those PIDs:
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > ~ $ ps -A | grep 5254
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> >  5254 ?        00:00:07 baloo_file
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > and PID 6699 doesn't show up any more, probably the process has
>>> already
>>> > >> > ended.
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > Did I miss something? How do I set up Baloo? Looking on the net,
>>> I only
>>> > >> > found how to set up a file ~/.kde4/share/config/nepomukserverrc
>>> (that
>>> > >>
>>> > >> was
>>> > >>
>>> > >> > nonexistent, which seemed strange), is there something else
>>> regarding
>>> > >>
>>> > >> the
>>> > >>
>>> > >> > database it might be willing to use?
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Nepomuk, and now Baloo, want to open file-watchers on your system
>>> to get
>>> > >> change-notifications directly from the kernel (filesystem driver),
>>> > >> instead of
>>> > >> polling the filesystem.
>>> > >> This is actually better, performance wise.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> To avoid these message, I created the following file a long time
>>> ago:
>>> > >>
>>> > >> % cat /etc/sysctl.d/97-kde-nepomuk-filewatch-inotify.conf
>>> > >> fs.inotify.max_user_watches = 65536
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Guess I will need to change the name of that file now :)
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Kind regards,
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Joost
>>> > >
>>> > > Thank you, Joost.
>>> > >
>>> > > Best Regards,
>>> > > Francisco
>>> >
>>> > Checking on the file pointed by Joost, I've found it on my
>>> filesystem), but
>>> > there is another file, an almost exact copy, for baloo:
>>> >
>>> > ~ # l /etc/sysctl.d/
>>> > total 28K
>>> > drwxr-xr-x   2 root root 4,0K Ago 21 10:50 ./
>>> > drwxr-xr-x 160 root root  12K Ago 21 10:22 ../
>>> > -rw-r--r--   1 root root   36 Ago 21 09:16
>>> > 97-kde-baloo-filewatch-inotify.conf
>>> >
>>> > -rw-r--r--   1 root root   36 Mai  7  2014
>>> > 97-kde-nepomuk-filewatch-inotify.conf
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ~ # cat /etc/sysctl.d/97-kde-*
>>> > fs.inotify.max_user_watches = 65536
>>> > fs.inotify.max_user_watches = 32768
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > The first value (65536) is from 97-kde-baloo-filewatch-inotify.conf .
>>> The
>>> > second (32768) is from 97-kde-nepomuk-filewatch-inotify.conf.
>>> >
>>> > So, the mystery goes on...
>>> >
>>> > Thanks,
>>> > Francisco
>>>
>>> what does:
>>> % cat /proc/sys/fs/inotify/max_user_watches
>>> give you?
>>>
>>> My guess: 32768 (as that's the last one it will find)
>>> On my system I get 65536.
>>>
>>> I think if you were to remove the nepomuk file, it should work.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Joost
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Unexpected:
>>
>> ~ $ cat /proc/sys/fs/inotify/max_user_watches
>> 131072
>>
>> both as a regular user an as root.
>>
>> Going to search for this number on config files.
>>
>> Thanks for the clue.
>>
>> Francisco
>>
>
>
>
> Also unexpected:
>
> ~ # cd /etc
> etc # fgrep -R 131072 * 2> /dev/null
> apache2/modules.d/10_mod_mem_cache.conf:MCacheSize 131072
> sane.d/sharp.conf:option buffersize 131072
> sysctl.d/97-kde-baloo-filewatch-inotify.conf:fs.inotify.max_user_watches =
> 131072
>
>
> I have logged out and back in, to check for the effects on that window
> asking for root password.  It did show up again, and now the
> file 97-kde-baloo-filewatch-inotify.conf has been changed.
>
> Going to try again, after removing 97-kde-nepomuk-filewatch-inotify.conf.
> Back soon...
>


It took a while longer, but there it is, asking for root password.  After
removing 97-kde-nepomuk-filewatch-inotify.conf and
adjusting 97-kde-baloo-filewatch-inotify.conf contents to the suggested by
Joost, there it is again, asking for root password.

Now, before hitting the OK button:

polkit.subject.pid 24276
polkit.caller.pid:  25543


~ # ps -ejH
  PID  PGID   SID TTY          TIME CMD
    2     0     0 ?        00:00:00 kthreadd
    3     0     0 ?        00:00:01   ksoftirqd/0
    5     0     0 ?        00:00:00   kworker/0:0H
 ...
25528     0     0 ?        00:00:00   kworker/3:2
25536     0     0 ?        00:00:00   kworker/1:2
    1     1     1 ?        00:00:00 init
 1761  1761  1761 ?        00:00:00   systemd-udevd
 ...
24173 24173 24173 ?        00:00:00   dbus-daemon
24220 24220 24220 ?        00:00:00   kdeinit4
24221 24220 24220 ?        00:00:00     klauncher
 ...
24247 24220 24220 ?        00:00:00   kactivitymanage
24270 24220 24220 ?        00:00:17   plasma-desktop
24272 24220 24220 ?        00:00:00     ksysguardd
24276 24220 24220 ?        00:00:25   baloo_file
 ...
25543  3972  3972 ?        00:00:00   kde_baloo_filew


So, they are part of the same tree, but there is no parent-child
relationship among them - as far as I understand this listing.

Thanks!
Francisco

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Re: [gentoo-user] nepomuk gone, baloo enters

[Francisco Ares]

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2015-08-21 11:56 GMT-03:00 J. Roeleveld <joost@antarean.org>:

> On 21 August 2015 16:39:12 CEST, Francisco Ares <frares@gmail.com> wrote:
> >2015-08-21 11:30 GMT-03:00 Francisco Ares <frares@gmail.com>:
> >
> >> 2015-08-21 11:02 GMT-03:00 J. Roeleveld <joost@antarean.org>:
> >>
> >>> On Friday, August 21, 2015 10:56:58 AM Francisco Ares wrote:
> >>> > 2015-08-21 10:49 GMT-03:00 Francisco Ares <frares@gmail.com>:
> >>> > > 2015-08-21 10:31 GMT-03:00 J. Roeleveld <joost@antarean.org>:
> >>> > >> On Friday, August 21, 2015 10:06:15 AM Francisco Ares wrote:
> >>> > >> > Hi,
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > In fact, I can only suppose there's something related to
> >changing
> >>> from
> >>> > >> > nepomuk to baloo:
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > Now, every time I log in, a window pops up asking for root
> >>> password.
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> The
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> > window title is "PolicyKit - KDE" and pressing the button
> >>> "Details", it
> >>> > >> > shows:
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > Action: Folder Watch Limit
> >>> > >> > polkit.subject-pid:    5254
> >>> > >> > polkit.caller-pid:     6699
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > Looking for those PIDs:
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > ~ $ ps -A | grep 5254
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> >  5254 ?        00:00:07 baloo_file
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > and PID 6699 doesn't show up any more, probably the process
> >has
> >>> already
> >>> > >> > ended.
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > Did I miss something? How do I set up Baloo? Looking on the
> >net, I
> >>> only
> >>> > >> > found how to set up a file
> >~/.kde4/share/config/nepomukserverrc
> >>> (that
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> was
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> > nonexistent, which seemed strange), is there something else
> >>> regarding
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> the
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> > database it might be willing to use?
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> Nepomuk, and now Baloo, want to open file-watchers on your
> >system to
> >>> get
> >>> > >> change-notifications directly from the kernel (filesystem
> >driver),
> >>> > >> instead of
> >>> > >> polling the filesystem.
> >>> > >> This is actually better, performance wise.
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> To avoid these message, I created the following file a long
> >time ago:
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> % cat /etc/sysctl.d/97-kde-nepomuk-filewatch-inotify.conf
> >>> > >> fs.inotify.max_user_watches = 65536
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> Guess I will need to change the name of that file now :)
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> Kind regards,
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> Joost
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Thank you, Joost.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Best Regards,
> >>> > > Francisco
> >>> >
> >>> > Checking on the file pointed by Joost, I've found it on my
> >filesystem),
> >>> but
> >>> > there is another file, an almost exact copy, for baloo:
> >>> >
> >>> > ~ # l /etc/sysctl.d/
> >>> > total 28K
> >>> > drwxr-xr-x   2 root root 4,0K Ago 21 10:50 ./
> >>> > drwxr-xr-x 160 root root  12K Ago 21 10:22 ../
> >>> > -rw-r--r--   1 root root   36 Ago 21 09:16
> >>> > 97-kde-baloo-filewatch-inotify.conf
> >>> >
> >>> > -rw-r--r--   1 root root   36 Mai  7  2014
> >>> > 97-kde-nepomuk-filewatch-inotify.conf
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > ~ # cat /etc/sysctl.d/97-kde-*
> >>> > fs.inotify.max_user_watches = 65536
> >>> > fs.inotify.max_user_watches = 32768
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > The first value (65536) is from
> >97-kde-baloo-filewatch-inotify.conf .
> >>> The
> >>> > second (32768) is from 97-kde-nepomuk-filewatch-inotify.conf.
> >>> >
> >>> > So, the mystery goes on...
> >>> >
> >>> > Thanks,
> >>> > Francisco
> >>>
> >>> what does:
> >>> % cat /proc/sys/fs/inotify/max_user_watches
> >>> give you?
> >>>
> >>> My guess: 32768 (as that's the last one it will find)
> >>> On my system I get 65536.
> >>>
> >>> I think if you were to remove the nepomuk file, it should work.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Joost
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> Unexpected:
> >>
> >> ~ $ cat /proc/sys/fs/inotify/max_user_watches
> >> 131072
> >>
> >> both as a regular user an as root.
> >>
> >> Going to search for this number on config files.
> >>
> >> Thanks for the clue.
> >>
> >> Francisco
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >Also unexpected:
> >
> >~ # cd /etc
> >etc # fgrep -R 131072 * 2> /dev/null
> >apache2/modules.d/10_mod_mem_cache.conf:MCacheSize 131072
> >sane.d/sharp.conf:option buffersize 131072
> >sysctl.d/97-kde-baloo-filewatch-inotify.conf:fs.inotify.max_user_watches
> >=
> >131072
> >
> >
> >I have logged out and back in, to check for the effects on that window
> >asking for root password.  It did show up again, and now the
> >file 97-kde-baloo-filewatch-inotify.conf has been changed.
> >
> >Going to try again, after removing
> >97-kde-nepomuk-filewatch-inotify.conf.
> >Back soon...
>
> Just a guess.
> I think when you provide the root password 2 things happen:
> That value gets increased on the fly (inside /proc/sys/....)
> And the baloo-file gets updated as well.
>
> --
> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
>
>
Most probably, I also suppose so.  Given root password, the system may do
anything, and that's what scares me ;-)

Best Regards,
Francisco

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Re: [gentoo-user] nepomuk gone, baloo enters

[Alan Grimes]

What in god's name are these "semantic desktops"  good for any way? The
only thing nepomunk ever did was consume CPU resources, I think I
intentionally broke the e-build on that one to prevent it from
installing such a useful, resource hungry, piece of crap. =( Who do you
think I am? A windows user???

I use fvwm. In a few years I expect to be sick of it again, at which point I'll try every window manager I can get to work on my system, then I'll re-discover fvwm and use it for another 5 years... 



-- 
IQ is a measure of how stupid you feel.

Powers are not rights.

Re: [gentoo-user] nepomuk gone, baloo enters

[J. Roeleveld]

On Friday, August 21, 2015 11:05:06 AM Alan Grimes wrote:
> What in god's name are these "semantic desktops"  good for any way? The
> only thing nepomunk ever did was consume CPU resources, I think I
> intentionally broke the e-build on that one to prevent it from
> installing such a useful, resource hungry, piece of crap. =( Who do you
> think I am? A windows user???

Yes

Re: [gentoo-user] nepomuk gone, baloo enters

[Alan McKinnon]

On 21/08/2015 17:05, Alan Grimes wrote:
> What in god's name are these "semantic desktops"  good for any way? The
> only thing nepomunk ever did was consume CPU resources, I think I
> intentionally broke the e-build on that one to prevent it from
> installing such a useful, resource hungry, piece of crap. =( Who do you
> think I am? A windows user???


Well, let's see. It's not like Nepomuk and the concept of a semantic
desktop wasn't a university research project sponsored by the European
Union, and the researchers chose KDE to implement it on (presumably
because OSS is an excellent fit for exactly that kind of thing). It's
not like there aren't many web pages out there that fully describe the
origins of Nepomuk and what the purpose of the research was, and that
Google can't find all of those issues for you in mere seconds.

Nope, it wasn't like that at all.....

The purpose and goal of Nepomuk is not in doubt, not even slightly. The
first implementation though, turns out to have been less than ideal,
particularly the backing store. So Nepomuk was eventually considered a
flawed prototype that demonstrated what not to do (this is the *real*
purpose of prototypes - ask any successful engineer), and Baloo written
instead. The intent is to get the benefits of a semantic desktop without
having to use all available resources to do it.

Not everything in this world warrants a clueless rant you know.




-- 
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckinnon@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] nepomuk gone, baloo enters

[Dale]

Francisco Ares wrote:
> Hi,
>
> In fact, I can only suppose there's something related to changing from
> nepomuk to baloo:
>
> Now, every time I log in, a window pops up asking for root password. 
> The window title is "PolicyKit - KDE" and pressing the button
> "Details", it shows:
>
> Action: Folder Watch Limit
> polkit.subject-pid:    5254
> polkit.caller-pid:     6699
>
> Looking for those PIDs:
>
> ~ $ ps -A | grep 5254
>  5254 ?        00:00:07 baloo_file
>
> and PID 6699 doesn't show up any more, probably the process has
> already ended.
>
> Did I miss something? How do I set up Baloo? Looking on the net, I
> only found how to set up a file ~/.kde4/share/config/nepomukserverrc
> (that was nonexistent, which seemed strange), is there something else
> regarding the database it might be willing to use?
>
> Thank you all.
> Francisco
>


Reading your posts, it seems you don't really want this "feature" of
KDE.  Why not disable the thing?  I have this in make.conf:

-nepomuk  -semantic-desktop

So far, that has disabled the whole desktop search thingy, that I also
found to be a pest and never needed.

Just a thought, in case you wasn't aware.

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] nepomuk gone, baloo enters

[Fernando Rodriguez]

On Friday, August 21, 2015 6:27:36 PM Dale wrote:
> Francisco Ares wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > In fact, I can only suppose there's something related to changing from
> > nepomuk to baloo:
> >
> > Now, every time I log in, a window pops up asking for root password. 
> > The window title is "PolicyKit - KDE" and pressing the button
> > "Details", it shows:
> >
> > Action: Folder Watch Limit
> > polkit.subject-pid:    5254
> > polkit.caller-pid:     6699
> >
> > Looking for those PIDs:
> >
> > ~ $ ps -A | grep 5254
> >  5254 ?        00:00:07 baloo_file
> >
> > and PID 6699 doesn't show up any more, probably the process has
> > already ended.
> >
> > Did I miss something? How do I set up Baloo? Looking on the net, I
> > only found how to set up a file ~/.kde4/share/config/nepomukserverrc
> > (that was nonexistent, which seemed strange), is there something else
> > regarding the database it might be willing to use?
> >
> > Thank you all.
> > Francisco
> >
> 
> 
> Reading your posts, it seems you don't really want this "feature" of
> KDE.  Why not disable the thing?  I have this in make.conf:
> 
> -nepomuk  -semantic-desktop
> 
> So far, that has disabled the whole desktop search thingy, that I also
> found to be a pest and never needed.
> 
> Just a thought, in case you wasn't aware.
> 
> Dale
> 
> :-)  :-) 

Do you use kmail? I disabled nepomuk at one point and I wasn't able to access 
my contacts on kmail. I think it's the same with baloo. And from what I've 
read the plan is for more applications to use it so you may miss important 
features. They recommend just disabling file indexing or adding your home 
directory to the exclusion list on system settings, But after doing that I 
still got that popup a few times until I okay'd it.

-- 
Fernando Rodriguez

Re: [gentoo-user] nepomuk gone, baloo enters

[Dale]

Fernando Rodriguez wrote:
> On Friday, August 21, 2015 6:27:36 PM Dale wrote:
>> Francisco Ares wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> In fact, I can only suppose there's something related to changing from
>>> nepomuk to baloo:
>>>
>>> Now, every time I log in, a window pops up asking for root password. 
>>> The window title is "PolicyKit - KDE" and pressing the button
>>> "Details", it shows:
>>>
>>> Action: Folder Watch Limit
>>> polkit.subject-pid:    5254
>>> polkit.caller-pid:     6699
>>>
>>> Looking for those PIDs:
>>>
>>> ~ $ ps -A | grep 5254
>>>  5254 ?        00:00:07 baloo_file
>>>
>>> and PID 6699 doesn't show up any more, probably the process has
>>> already ended.
>>>
>>> Did I miss something? How do I set up Baloo? Looking on the net, I
>>> only found how to set up a file ~/.kde4/share/config/nepomukserverrc
>>> (that was nonexistent, which seemed strange), is there something else
>>> regarding the database it might be willing to use?
>>>
>>> Thank you all.
>>> Francisco
>>>
>>
>> Reading your posts, it seems you don't really want this "feature" of
>> KDE.  Why not disable the thing?  I have this in make.conf:
>>
>> -nepomuk  -semantic-desktop
>>
>> So far, that has disabled the whole desktop search thingy, that I also
>> found to be a pest and never needed.
>>
>> Just a thought, in case you wasn't aware.
>>
>> Dale
>>
>> :-)  :-) 
> Do you use kmail? I disabled nepomuk at one point and I wasn't able to access 
> my contacts on kmail. I think it's the same with baloo. And from what I've 
> read the plan is for more applications to use it so you may miss important 
> features. They recommend just disabling file indexing or adding your home 
> directory to the exclusion list on system settings, But after doing that I 
> still got that popup a few times until I okay'd it.
>


I used to use Kmail until all this mess started.  I think the last I
used Kmail was back in KDE3.  When I saw all this mess coming, I
switched to Seamonkey.  Seamonkey does all my email stuff and I'm happy
with it.  I do wish the sound notification thingy would work tho.  Maybe
I just need to sit down one day and try to figure out why it doesn't
work.  Sound works everywhere else.  Still, it does what I really need
without to much bloat. 

I installed KDE with the kde-meta.  It basically installs everything but
the kitchen sink.  To be honest tho, I could likely install it in a
better way that leaves out TONS of stuff I never use.  This file indexer
thingy is one of the ones I have never had a need for.  If I want to
find some file, locate, find and etc works for those rare occasions.  It
is rare since I'm fairly well organized with my stuff.  Well, computer
files at least.  My closet and shop is a different matter tho.  lol 

My point was that this can be disabled IF it is not needed.  If it is
needed, then fixing it is the solution.  If it is not, disable it and
shove the problem into the trash can.  ;-)

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] nepomuk gone, baloo enters

[Peter Humphrey]

On Friday 21 August 2015 10:06:15 Francisco Ares wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> In fact, I can only suppose there's something related to changing from
> nepomuk to baloo:
> 
> Now, every time I log in, a window pops up asking for root password.  The
> window title is "PolicyKit - KDE" and pressing the button "Details", it
> shows:
> 
> Action: Folder Watch Limit
> polkit.subject-pid:    5254
> polkit.caller-pid:     6699
> 
> Looking for those PIDs:
> 
> ~ $ ps -A | grep 5254
>  5254 ?        00:00:07 baloo_file
> 
> and PID 6699 doesn't show up any more, probably the process has already
> ended.
> 
> Did I miss something? How do I set up Baloo? Looking on the net, I only
> found how to set up a file ~/.kde4/share/config/nepomukserverrc (that was
> nonexistent, which seemed strange), is there something else regarding the
> database it might be willing to use?

I may have missed something here, but I'm puzzled. Without running an 
exhaustive search, the only \*baloo\* or \*nepomuk\* files I see on this box 
are these:

$ find . -name \*baloo\*
./.config/akonadi/agent_config_akonadi_baloo_indexer
./.config/akonadi/agent_config_akonadi_baloo_indexer_changes.dat
./.local/share/baloo
./.kde4/share/config/baloorc
./.kde4/share/config/baloofilerc

...and this:

$ cat /etc/dbus-1/system.d/org.kde.baloo.filewatch.conf
<!DOCTYPE busconfig PUBLIC
 "-//freedesktop//DTD D-BUS Bus Configuration 1.0//EN"
 "http://www.freedesktop.org/standards/dbus/1.0/busconfig.dtd">
<busconfig>
 
  <!-- Only user root can own the foo helper -->
  <policy user="root">
    <allow own="org.kde.baloo.filewatch"/>
  </policy>
 
</busconfig>

No sign of a filewatch-inotify anywhere, and the only file in /etc/sysctl.d is a 
readme. This is an openrc box, not systemd; maybe that's the difference.

I've just removed -semantic-desktop from make.conf and only dolphin and 
gwenview were reinstalled. I'm writing this in KMail.

So where have those files come from on your system? Have you run equery b on 
them?

-- 
Rgds
Peter

Re: [gentoo-user] nepomuk gone, baloo enters

[Dale]

Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Friday 21 August 2015 10:06:15 Francisco Ares wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> In fact, I can only suppose there's something related to changing from
>> nepomuk to baloo:
>>
>> Now, every time I log in, a window pops up asking for root password.  The
>> window title is "PolicyKit - KDE" and pressing the button "Details", it
>> shows:
>>
>> Action: Folder Watch Limit
>> polkit.subject-pid:    5254
>> polkit.caller-pid:     6699
>>
>> Looking for those PIDs:
>>
>> ~ $ ps -A | grep 5254
>>  5254 ?        00:00:07 baloo_file
>>
>> and PID 6699 doesn't show up any more, probably the process has already
>> ended.
>>
>> Did I miss something? How do I set up Baloo? Looking on the net, I only
>> found how to set up a file ~/.kde4/share/config/nepomukserverrc (that was
>> nonexistent, which seemed strange), is there something else regarding the
>> database it might be willing to use?
> I may have missed something here, but I'm puzzled. Without running an 
> exhaustive search, the only \*baloo\* or \*nepomuk\* files I see on this box 
> are these:
>
> $ find . -name \*baloo\*
> ./.config/akonadi/agent_config_akonadi_baloo_indexer
> ./.config/akonadi/agent_config_akonadi_baloo_indexer_changes.dat
> ./.local/share/baloo
> ./.kde4/share/config/baloorc
> ./.kde4/share/config/baloofilerc
>
> ...and this:
>
> $ cat /etc/dbus-1/system.d/org.kde.baloo.filewatch.conf
> <!DOCTYPE busconfig PUBLIC
>  "-//freedesktop//DTD D-BUS Bus Configuration 1.0//EN"
>  "http://www.freedesktop.org/standards/dbus/1.0/busconfig.dtd">
> <busconfig>
>  
>   <!-- Only user root can own the foo helper -->
>   <policy user="root">
>     <allow own="org.kde.baloo.filewatch"/>
>   </policy>
>  
> </busconfig>
>
> No sign of a filewatch-inotify anywhere, and the only file in /etc/sysctl.d is a 
> readme. This is an openrc box, not systemd; maybe that's the difference.
>
> I've just removed -semantic-desktop from make.conf and only dolphin and 
> gwenview were reinstalled. I'm writing this in KMail.
>
> So where have those files come from on your system? Have you run equery b on 
> them?
>


I removed the USE flags here and got this:



root@fireball / # emerge -uvaDN world

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild  N     ] kde-base/baloo-widgets-4.14.3:4/4.14::gentoo 
USE="(-aqua) -debug" 37 KiB
[ebuild   R    ] kde-apps/gwenview-4.14.3:4/4.14::gentoo  USE="handbook
kipi semantic-desktop* (-aqua) -debug" 0 KiB
[ebuild   R   ~] media-gfx/digikam-4.12.0:4::gentoo  USE="gphoto2
handbook mysql semantic-desktop* thumbnails -addressbook (-aqua) -debug
-doc -video" LINGUAS="-af -ar -az -be -bg -bn -br -bs -ca -cs -csb -cy
-da -de -el -en_GB -eo -es -et -eu -fa -fi -fo -fr -fy -ga -gl -ha -he
-hi -hr -hsb -hu -id -is -it -ja -ka -kk -km -ko -ku -lb -lo -lt -lv -mi
-mk -mn -ms -mt -nb -nds -ne -nl -nn -nso -oc -pa -pl -pt -pt_BR -ro -ru
-rw -se -sk -sl -sq -sr -sr@Latn -ss -sv -ta -te -tg -th -tr -tt -uk -uz
-uz@cyrillic -ven -vi -wa -xh -zh_CN -zh_HK -zh_TW -zu" 0 KiB
[ebuild   R    ] kde-apps/dolphin-4.14.3:4/4.14::gentoo  USE="handbook
semantic-desktop* (-aqua) -debug -thumbnail" 0 KiB

Total: 4 packages (1 new, 3 reinstalls), Size of downloads: 37 KiB
 

It pulls in a extra package here.  Sharing info just in case it might
help. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] nepomuk gone, baloo enters

[Peter Humphrey]

(You're up early!  :) )

On Saturday 22 August 2015 05:03:31 Dale wrote:
> Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > I may have missed something here, but I'm puzzled. Without running an
> > exhaustive search, the only \*baloo\* or \*nepomuk\* files I see on this
> > box are these:
> > 
> > $ find . -name \*baloo\*
> > ./.config/akonadi/agent_config_akonadi_baloo_indexer
> > ./.config/akonadi/agent_config_akonadi_baloo_indexer_changes.dat
> > ./.local/share/baloo
> > ./.kde4/share/config/baloorc
> > ./.kde4/share/config/baloofilerc
> > 
> > ...and this:
> > 
> > $ cat /etc/dbus-1/system.d/org.kde.baloo.filewatch.conf
> > <!DOCTYPE busconfig PUBLIC
> > 
> >  "-//freedesktop//DTD D-BUS Bus Configuration 1.0//EN"
> >  "http://www.freedesktop.org/standards/dbus/1.0/busconfig.dtd">
> > 
> > <busconfig>
> > 
> >   <!-- Only user root can own the foo helper -->
> >   <policy user="root">
> >   
> >     <allow own="org.kde.baloo.filewatch"/>
> >   
> >   </policy>
> > 
> > </busconfig>
> > 
> > No sign of a filewatch-inotify anywhere, and the only file in
> > /etc/sysctl.d is a readme. This is an openrc box, not systemd; maybe
> > that's the difference.
> > 
> > I've just removed -semantic-desktop from make.conf and only dolphin and
> > gwenview were reinstalled. I'm writing this in KMail.
> > 
> > So where have those files come from on your system? Have you run equery b
> > on them?
> 
> I removed the USE flags here and got this:
> 
> root@fireball / # emerge -uvaDN world
> 
> These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
> 
> Calculating dependencies... done!
> [ebuild  N     ] kde-base/baloo-widgets-4.14.3:4/4.14::gentoo
> USE="(-aqua) -debug" 37 KiB
> [ebuild   R    ] kde-apps/gwenview-4.14.3:4/4.14::gentoo  USE="handbook
> kipi semantic-desktop* (-aqua) -debug" 0 KiB
> [ebuild   R   ~] media-gfx/digikam-4.12.0:4::gentoo  USE="gphoto2
> handbook mysql semantic-desktop* thumbnails -addressbook (-aqua) -debug
> -doc -video" LINGUAS="-af -ar -az -be -bg -bn -br -bs -ca -cs -csb -cy
> -da -de -el -en_GB -eo -es -et -eu -fa -fi -fo -fr -fy -ga -gl -ha -he
> -hi -hr -hsb -hu -id -is -it -ja -ka -kk -km -ko -ku -lb -lo -lt -lv -mi
> -mk -mn -ms -mt -nb -nds -ne -nl -nn -nso -oc -pa -pl -pt -pt_BR -ro -ru
> -rw -se -sk -sl -sq -sr -sr@Latn -ss -sv -ta -te -tg -th -tr -tt -uk -uz
> -uz@cyrillic -ven -vi -wa -xh -zh_CN -zh_HK -zh_TW -zu" 0 KiB
> [ebuild   R    ] kde-apps/dolphin-4.14.3:4/4.14::gentoo  USE="handbook
> semantic-desktop* (-aqua) -debug -thumbnail" 0 KiB
> 
> Total: 4 packages (1 new, 3 reinstalls), Size of downloads: 37 KiB
> 
> 
> It pulls in a extra package here.  Sharing info just in case it might
> help.

But baloo-widgets doesn't use the semantic-desktop flag. Emerge -pv:

[ebuild   R    ] kde-base/baloo-widgets-4.14.3:4/4.14::gentoo  USE="(-aqua) -debug" 0 KiB

Something else must be pulling it in on your box, Dale, no?

-- 
Rgds
Peter

Re: [gentoo-user] nepomuk gone, baloo enters

[Dale]

Peter Humphrey wrote:
> (You're up early!  :) )
>
> On Saturday 22 August 2015 05:03:31 Dale wrote:
>>
>> I removed the USE flags here and got this:
>>
>> root@fireball / # emerge -uvaDN world
>>
>> These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
>>
>> Calculating dependencies... done!
>> [ebuild  N     ] kde-base/baloo-widgets-4.14.3:4/4.14::gentoo
>> USE="(-aqua) -debug" 37 KiB
>> [ebuild   R    ] kde-apps/gwenview-4.14.3:4/4.14::gentoo  USE="handbook
>> kipi semantic-desktop* (-aqua) -debug" 0 KiB
>> [ebuild   R   ~] media-gfx/digikam-4.12.0:4::gentoo  USE="gphoto2
>> handbook mysql semantic-desktop* thumbnails -addressbook (-aqua) -debug
>> -doc -video" LINGUAS="-af -ar -az -be -bg -bn -br -bs -ca -cs -csb -cy
>> -da -de -el -en_GB -eo -es -et -eu -fa -fi -fo -fr -fy -ga -gl -ha -he
>> -hi -hr -hsb -hu -id -is -it -ja -ka -kk -km -ko -ku -lb -lo -lt -lv -mi
>> -mk -mn -ms -mt -nb -nds -ne -nl -nn -nso -oc -pa -pl -pt -pt_BR -ro -ru
>> -rw -se -sk -sl -sq -sr -sr@Latn -ss -sv -ta -te -tg -th -tr -tt -uk -uz
>> -uz@cyrillic -ven -vi -wa -xh -zh_CN -zh_HK -zh_TW -zu" 0 KiB
>> [ebuild   R    ] kde-apps/dolphin-4.14.3:4/4.14::gentoo  USE="handbook
>> semantic-desktop* (-aqua) -debug -thumbnail" 0 KiB
>>
>> Total: 4 packages (1 new, 3 reinstalls), Size of downloads: 37 KiB
>>
>>
>> It pulls in a extra package here.  Sharing info just in case it might
>> help.
> But baloo-widgets doesn't use the semantic-desktop flag. Emerge -pv:
>
> [ebuild   R    ] kde-base/baloo-widgets-4.14.3:4/4.14::gentoo  USE="(-aqua) -debug" 0 KiB
>
> Something else must be pulling it in on your box, Dale, no?
>


Well, when I went back and put it back like it was, I got this:


root@fireball / # emerge -uvaDN world

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!

Total: 0 packages, Size of downloads: 0 KiB

Nothing to merge; quitting.

root@fireball / #


So, it seems that USE flag is not optional for that package but that the
USE flag being enabled causes it to be pulled in.   I've had that crap
disabled here since waaaaay back. 

Oh, I haven't been to bed yet.  Give me a few minutes tho.  -_- 

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] nepomuk gone, baloo enters

[Mick]

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On Saturday 22 Aug 2015 12:07:00 Dale wrote:
> Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > (You're up early!  :) )
> > 
> > On Saturday 22 August 2015 05:03:31 Dale wrote:
> >> I removed the USE flags here and got this:
> >> 
> >> root@fireball / # emerge -uvaDN world
> >> 
> >> These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
> >> 
> >> Calculating dependencies... done!
> >> [ebuild  N     ] kde-base/baloo-widgets-4.14.3:4/4.14::gentoo
> >> USE="(-aqua) -debug" 37 KiB
> >> [ebuild   R    ] kde-apps/gwenview-4.14.3:4/4.14::gentoo  USE="handbook
> >> kipi semantic-desktop* (-aqua) -debug" 0 KiB
> >> [ebuild   R   ~] media-gfx/digikam-4.12.0:4::gentoo  USE="gphoto2
> >> handbook mysql semantic-desktop* thumbnails -addressbook (-aqua) -debug
> >> -doc -video" LINGUAS="-af -ar -az -be -bg -bn -br -bs -ca -cs -csb -cy
> >> -da -de -el -en_GB -eo -es -et -eu -fa -fi -fo -fr -fy -ga -gl -ha -he
> >> -hi -hr -hsb -hu -id -is -it -ja -ka -kk -km -ko -ku -lb -lo -lt -lv -mi
> >> -mk -mn -ms -mt -nb -nds -ne -nl -nn -nso -oc -pa -pl -pt -pt_BR -ro -ru
> >> -rw -se -sk -sl -sq -sr -sr@Latn -ss -sv -ta -te -tg -th -tr -tt -uk -uz
> >> -uz@cyrillic -ven -vi -wa -xh -zh_CN -zh_HK -zh_TW -zu" 0 KiB
> >> [ebuild   R    ] kde-apps/dolphin-4.14.3:4/4.14::gentoo  USE="handbook
> >> semantic-desktop* (-aqua) -debug -thumbnail" 0 KiB
> >> 
> >> Total: 4 packages (1 new, 3 reinstalls), Size of downloads: 37 KiB
> >> 
> >> 
> >> It pulls in a extra package here.  Sharing info just in case it might
> >> help.
> > 
> > But baloo-widgets doesn't use the semantic-desktop flag. Emerge -pv:
> > 
> > [ebuild   R    ] kde-base/baloo-widgets-4.14.3:4/4.14::gentoo 
> > USE="(-aqua) -debug" 0 KiB
> > 
> > Something else must be pulling it in on your box, Dale, no?
> 
> Well, when I went back and put it back like it was, I got this:
> 
> 
> root@fireball / # emerge -uvaDN world
> 
> These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
> 
> Calculating dependencies... done!
> 
> Total: 0 packages, Size of downloads: 0 KiB
> 
> Nothing to merge; quitting.
> 
> root@fireball / #
> 
> 
> So, it seems that USE flag is not optional for that package but that the
> USE flag being enabled causes it to be pulled in.   I've had that crap
> disabled here since waaaaay back.
> 
> Oh, I haven't been to bed yet.  Give me a few minutes tho.  -_-
> 
> Dale
> 
> :-)  :-)

There was an e-news item:

2015-08-11-nepomuk-removal

Therefore, I think that the nepomuk USE flag is no longer valid, although 
semantic-desktop is still being used.  KDEPIM needs the semantic-desktop USE 
flag, or it won't work fully.

-- 
Regards,
Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] nepomuk gone, baloo enters

[Peter Humphrey]

On Saturday 22 August 2015 12:37:01 Mick wrote:

> There was an e-news item:
> 
> 2015-08-11-nepomuk-removal

Oo-er. Eselect news list here shows all news items as having been removed. I 
haven't seen that before - I'd better look into it. I did notice a batch of 
news files going by during a recent sync though, so perhaps this is another 
symptom of the gentoo sync mechanism.

> Therefore, I think that the nepomuk USE flag is no longer valid, although
> semantic-desktop is still being used.  KDEPIM needs the semantic-desktop USE
> flag, or it won't work fully.

As long as you only want the KMail component of KDEPim you can get away 
without semantic-desktop. So far.   :-)

-- 
Rgds
Peter

Re: [gentoo-user] nepomuk gone, baloo enters

[Mick]

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On Saturday 22 Aug 2015 14:13:46 Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Saturday 22 August 2015 12:37:01 Mick wrote:
> > There was an e-news item:
> > 
> > 2015-08-11-nepomuk-removal
> 
> Oo-er. Eselect news list here shows all news items as having been removed.
> I haven't seen that before - I'd better look into it. I did notice a batch
> of news files going by during a recent sync though, so perhaps this is
> another symptom of the gentoo sync mechanism.

This is what it contains:
========================
2015-08-11-nepomuk-removal
  Title                     Nepomuk removal
  Author                    Johannes Huber <johu@gentoo.org>
  Posted                    2015-08-11
  Revision                  1

With KDE SC 4.13.0 release the default semantic desktop search engine
switched from Nepomuk to Baloo.[1] This change was honoured in Gentoo
by changing the semantic-desktop use flag to cover the new engine and
moving the old to nepomuk use flag.

The underlaying storage backend for Nepomuk aka Virtuoso DB has a lot
of unsolved upstream issues[2], therefore we will remove it. This means
packages with build options on the old stack will drop them. Other
packages which hard requiring it will be removed.

If you are still using Nepomuk you can switch to Baloo by globally
enable semantic-desktop and disabling nepomuk use flag in
/etc/portage/make.conf or using one of the kde desktop profiles.

[1] https://www.kde.org/announcements/4.13/
[2] https://bugs.gentoo.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=virtuoso

========================


> > Therefore, I think that the nepomuk USE flag is no longer valid, although
> > semantic-desktop is still being used.  KDEPIM needs the semantic-desktop
> > USE flag, or it won't work fully.
> 
> As long as you only want the KMail component of KDEPim you can get away
> without semantic-desktop. So far.   :-)

I think that migration of data will fail, address book searches won't work, 
etc.  I haven't looked into it at any depth TBH, but enabled USE="nepomuk 
semantic-desktop" as it was back then for this reason.

-- 
Regards,
Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] nepomuk gone, baloo enters

[Peter Humphrey]

On Saturday 22 August 2015 14:48:18 Mick wrote:
> On Saturday 22 Aug 2015 14:13:46 Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > On Saturday 22 August 2015 12:37:01 Mick wrote:
> > > There was an e-news item:
> > > 
> > > 2015-08-11-nepomuk-removal
> > 
> > Oo-er. Eselect news list here shows all news items as having been removed.
> > I haven't seen that before - I'd better look into it. I did notice a batch
> > of news files going by during a recent sync though, so perhaps this is
> > another symptom of the gentoo sync mechanism.
> 
> This is what it contains:
> ========================
> 2015-08-11-nepomuk-removal
>   Title                     Nepomuk removal
>   Author                    Johannes Huber <johu@gentoo.org>
>   Posted                    2015-08-11
>   Revision                  1
> 
> With KDE SC 4.13.0 release the default semantic desktop search engine
> switched from Nepomuk to Baloo.[1] This change was honoured in Gentoo
> by changing the semantic-desktop use flag to cover the new engine and
> moving the old to nepomuk use flag.
> 
> The underlaying storage backend for Nepomuk aka Virtuoso DB has a lot
> of unsolved upstream issues[2], therefore we will remove it. This means
> packages with build options on the old stack will drop them. Other
> packages which hard requiring it will be removed.
> 
> If you are still using Nepomuk you can switch to Baloo by globally
> enable semantic-desktop and disabling nepomuk use flag in
> /etc/portage/make.conf or using one of the kde desktop profiles.
> 
> [1] https://www.kde.org/announcements/4.13/
> [2] https://bugs.gentoo.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=virtuoso
> 
> ========================
> 
> > > Therefore, I think that the nepomuk USE flag is no longer valid,
> > > although
> > > semantic-desktop is still being used.  KDEPIM needs the semantic-desktop
> > > USE flag, or it won't work fully.
> > 
> > As long as you only want the KMail component of KDEPim you can get away
> > without semantic-desktop. So far.   :-)
> 
> I think that migration of data will fail, address book searches won't work,
> etc.  I haven't looked into it at any depth TBH, but enabled USE="nepomuk
> semantic-desktop" as it was back then for this reason.

All right, thanks. Also for the copy of the news item.

-- 
Rgds
Peter

Re: [gentoo-user] nepomuk gone, baloo enters

[Dale]

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Mick wrote:
> On Saturday 22 Aug 2015 12:07:00 Dale wrote:
>> Peter Humphrey wrote:
>>> (You're up early!  :) )
>>>
>>> On Saturday 22 August 2015 05:03:31 Dale wrote:
>>>> I removed the USE flags here and got this:
>>>>
>>>> root@fireball / # emerge -uvaDN world
>>>>
>>>> These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
>>>>
>>>> Calculating dependencies... done!
>>>> [ebuild  N     ] kde-base/baloo-widgets-4.14.3:4/4.14::gentoo
>>>> USE="(-aqua) -debug" 37 KiB
>>>> [ebuild   R    ] kde-apps/gwenview-4.14.3:4/4.14::gentoo  USE="handbook
>>>> kipi semantic-desktop* (-aqua) -debug" 0 KiB
>>>> [ebuild   R   ~] media-gfx/digikam-4.12.0:4::gentoo  USE="gphoto2
>>>> handbook mysql semantic-desktop* thumbnails -addressbook (-aqua) -debug
>>>> -doc -video" LINGUAS="-af -ar -az -be -bg -bn -br -bs -ca -cs -csb -cy
>>>> -da -de -el -en_GB -eo -es -et -eu -fa -fi -fo -fr -fy -ga -gl -ha -he
>>>> -hi -hr -hsb -hu -id -is -it -ja -ka -kk -km -ko -ku -lb -lo -lt
-lv -mi
>>>> -mk -mn -ms -mt -nb -nds -ne -nl -nn -nso -oc -pa -pl -pt -pt_BR
-ro -ru
>>>> -rw -se -sk -sl -sq -sr -sr@Latn -ss -sv -ta -te -tg -th -tr -tt
-uk -uz
>>>> -uz@cyrillic -ven -vi -wa -xh -zh_CN -zh_HK -zh_TW -zu" 0 KiB
>>>> [ebuild   R    ] kde-apps/dolphin-4.14.3:4/4.14::gentoo  USE="handbook
>>>> semantic-desktop* (-aqua) -debug -thumbnail" 0 KiB
>>>>
>>>> Total: 4 packages (1 new, 3 reinstalls), Size of downloads: 37 KiB
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It pulls in a extra package here.  Sharing info just in case it might
>>>> help.
>>>
>>> But baloo-widgets doesn't use the semantic-desktop flag. Emerge -pv:
>>>
>>> [ebuild   R    ] kde-base/baloo-widgets-4.14.3:4/4.14::gentoo
>>> USE="(-aqua) -debug" 0 KiB
>>>
>>> Something else must be pulling it in on your box, Dale, no?
>>
>> Well, when I went back and put it back like it was, I got this:
>>
>>
>> root@fireball / # emerge -uvaDN world
>>
>> These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
>>
>> Calculating dependencies... done!
>>
>> Total: 0 packages, Size of downloads: 0 KiB
>>
>> Nothing to merge; quitting.
>>
>> root@fireball / #
>>
>>
>> So, it seems that USE flag is not optional for that package but that the
>> USE flag being enabled causes it to be pulled in.   I've had that crap
>> disabled here since waaaaay back.
>>
>> Oh, I haven't been to bed yet.  Give me a few minutes tho.  -_-
>>
>> Dale
>>
>> :-)  :-)
>
> There was an e-news item:
>
> 2015-08-11-nepomuk-removal
>
> Therefore, I think that the nepomuk USE flag is no longer valid, although
> semantic-desktop is still being used.  KDEPIM needs the
semantic-desktop USE
> flag, or it won't work fully.
>

Yea, I read that and made sure that any related USE flags were
disabled.  I didn't want it back then and I don't want it now either.  A
lot of days, I wish KDE3 was still around and up to date.  I switch back
most likely.  KDE3 worked just fine for me.

Everything I use here works so whatever KDEPIM needs, it must have.  I'm
not sure I use anything it provides anyway.  As I mentioned before, I
don't really need ALL of KDE.  I don't use Kmail, the KDE contact thingy
or any of that.  I just don't feel like figuring out what I could remove
and what would need to be changed in my world file to just get what I
really use.  Maybe one of these days.  Doubtful tho.

Dale

:-)  :-)


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Re: [gentoo-user] nepomuk gone, baloo enters

[Fernando Rodriguez]

On Saturday, August 22, 2015 5:03:31 AM Dale wrote:
> Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > On Friday 21 August 2015 10:06:15 Francisco Ares wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> In fact, I can only suppose there's something related to changing from
> >> nepomuk to baloo:
> >>
> >> Now, every time I log in, a window pops up asking for root password.  The
> >> window title is "PolicyKit - KDE" and pressing the button "Details", it
> >> shows:
> >>
> >> Action: Folder Watch Limit
> >> polkit.subject-pid:    5254
> >> polkit.caller-pid:     6699
> >>
> >> Looking for those PIDs:
> >>
> >> ~ $ ps -A | grep 5254
> >>  5254 ?        00:00:07 baloo_file
> >>
> >> and PID 6699 doesn't show up any more, probably the process has already
> >> ended.
> >>
> >> Did I miss something? How do I set up Baloo? Looking on the net, I only
> >> found how to set up a file ~/.kde4/share/config/nepomukserverrc (that was
> >> nonexistent, which seemed strange), is there something else regarding the
> >> database it might be willing to use?
> > I may have missed something here, but I'm puzzled. Without running an 
> > exhaustive search, the only \*baloo\* or \*nepomuk\* files I see on this 
box 
> > are these:
> >
> > $ find . -name \*baloo\*
> > ./.config/akonadi/agent_config_akonadi_baloo_indexer
> > ./.config/akonadi/agent_config_akonadi_baloo_indexer_changes.dat
> > ./.local/share/baloo
> > ./.kde4/share/config/baloorc
> > ./.kde4/share/config/baloofilerc
> >
> > ...and this:
> >
> > $ cat /etc/dbus-1/system.d/org.kde.baloo.filewatch.conf
> > <!DOCTYPE busconfig PUBLIC
> >  "-//freedesktop//DTD D-BUS Bus Configuration 1.0//EN"
> >  "http://www.freedesktop.org/standards/dbus/1.0/busconfig.dtd">
> > <busconfig>
> >  
> >   <!-- Only user root can own the foo helper -->
> >   <policy user="root">
> >     <allow own="org.kde.baloo.filewatch"/>
> >   </policy>
> >  
> > </busconfig>
> >
> > No sign of a filewatch-inotify anywhere, and the only file in /etc/sysctl.d 
is a 
> > readme. This is an openrc box, not systemd; maybe that's the difference.
> >
> > I've just removed -semantic-desktop from make.conf and only dolphin and 
> > gwenview were reinstalled. I'm writing this in KMail.
> >
> > So where have those files come from on your system? Have you run equery b 
on 
> > them?
> >
> 
> 
> I removed the USE flags here and got this:
> 
> 
> 
> root@fireball / # emerge -uvaDN world
> 
> These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
> 
> Calculating dependencies... done!
> [ebuild  N     ] kde-base/baloo-widgets-4.14.3:4/4.14::gentoo 
> USE="(-aqua) -debug" 37 KiB
> [ebuild   R    ] kde-apps/gwenview-4.14.3:4/4.14::gentoo  USE="handbook
> kipi semantic-desktop* (-aqua) -debug" 0 KiB
> [ebuild   R   ~] media-gfx/digikam-4.12.0:4::gentoo  USE="gphoto2
> handbook mysql semantic-desktop* thumbnails -addressbook (-aqua) -debug
> -doc -video" LINGUAS="-af -ar -az -be -bg -bn -br -bs -ca -cs -csb -cy
> -da -de -el -en_GB -eo -es -et -eu -fa -fi -fo -fr -fy -ga -gl -ha -he
> -hi -hr -hsb -hu -id -is -it -ja -ka -kk -km -ko -ku -lb -lo -lt -lv -mi
> -mk -mn -ms -mt -nb -nds -ne -nl -nn -nso -oc -pa -pl -pt -pt_BR -ro -ru
> -rw -se -sk -sl -sq -sr -sr@Latn -ss -sv -ta -te -tg -th -tr -tt -uk -uz
> -uz@cyrillic -ven -vi -wa -xh -zh_CN -zh_HK -zh_TW -zu" 0 KiB
> [ebuild   R    ] kde-apps/dolphin-4.14.3:4/4.14::gentoo  USE="handbook
> semantic-desktop* (-aqua) -debug -thumbnail" 0 KiB
> 
> Total: 4 packages (1 new, 3 reinstalls), Size of downloads: 37 KiB
>  
> 
> It pulls in a extra package here.  Sharing info just in case it might
> help. 
> 
> Dale
> 
> :-)  :-) 
> 

Interesting that it didn't pull baloo so you must have it installed?

-- 
Fernando Rodriguez

Re: [gentoo-user] nepomuk gone, baloo enters

[Dale]

Fernando Rodriguez wrote:
> On Saturday, August 22, 2015 5:03:31 AM Dale wrote:
>
>
> I removed the USE flags here and got this:
>
>
>
> root@fireball / # emerge -uvaDN world
>
> These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
>
> Calculating dependencies... done!
> [ebuild  N     ] kde-base/baloo-widgets-4.14.3:4/4.14::gentoo 
> USE="(-aqua) -debug" 37 KiB
> [ebuild   R    ] kde-apps/gwenview-4.14.3:4/4.14::gentoo  USE="handbook
> kipi semantic-desktop* (-aqua) -debug" 0 KiB
> [ebuild   R   ~] media-gfx/digikam-4.12.0:4::gentoo  USE="gphoto2
> handbook mysql semantic-desktop* thumbnails -addressbook (-aqua) -debug
> -doc -video" LINGUAS="-af -ar -az -be -bg -bn -br -bs -ca -cs -csb -cy
> -da -de -el -en_GB -eo -es -et -eu -fa -fi -fo -fr -fy -ga -gl -ha -he
> -hi -hr -hsb -hu -id -is -it -ja -ka -kk -km -ko -ku -lb -lo -lt -lv -mi
> -mk -mn -ms -mt -nb -nds -ne -nl -nn -nso -oc -pa -pl -pt -pt_BR -ro -ru
> -rw -se -sk -sl -sq -sr -sr@Latn -ss -sv -ta -te -tg -th -tr -tt -uk -uz
> -uz@cyrillic -ven -vi -wa -xh -zh_CN -zh_HK -zh_TW -zu" 0 KiB
> [ebuild   R    ] kde-apps/dolphin-4.14.3:4/4.14::gentoo  USE="handbook
> semantic-desktop* (-aqua) -debug -thumbnail" 0 KiB
>
> Total: 4 packages (1 new, 3 reinstalls), Size of downloads: 37 KiB
>  
>
> It pulls in a extra package here.  Sharing info just in case it might
> help. 
>
> Dale
>
> :-)  :-) 
>
> Interesting that it didn't pull baloo so you must have it installed?
>


For some reason the quoting didn't quite work right.  Hmmmmm. 

It appears I do.  Now you going to make me have to go find out what
pulled that in, then what pulled in what pulled it in and so on until I
get rid of that thing.  Grrrrrrr. 

 * Searching for baloo in kde-base ...
[IP-] [  ] kde-base/baloo-4.14.3:4/4.14
root@fireball / #


< Dale gives Fernando a Gibbs head smack > 

ROFL

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] nepomuk gone, baloo enters

[Dale]

Dale wrote:
> Fernando Rodriguez wrote:
>>
>> Interesting that it didn't pull baloo so you must have it installed?
>>
>
> For some reason the quoting didn't quite work right.  Hmmmmm. 
>
> It appears I do.  Now you going to make me have to go find out what
> pulled that in, then what pulled in what pulled it in and so on until I
> get rid of that thing.  Grrrrrrr. 
>
>  * Searching for baloo in kde-base ...
> [IP-] [  ] kde-base/baloo-4.14.3:4/4.14
> root@fireball / #
>
>
> < Dale gives Fernando a Gibbs head smack > 
>
> ROFL
>
> Dale
>
> :-)  :-) 
>


I think I found it.  I needed to run --depclean.  No clue why it was
installed to begin with.


 kde-base/nepomuk-widgets
    selected: 4.14.3
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 kde-base/nepomuk-core
    selected: 4.14.3
   protected: none
     omitted: none

 kde-base/baloo
    selected: 4.14.3
   protected: none
     omitted: none


Wave bye bye.

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] nepomuk gone, baloo enters

[Francisco Ares]

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Thanks, Dale, for your point of view.

But since I'm not the only user (my wife is forced to use it, too ;-) )and
I am the only one that knows how to use a command line session, for
instance, I still want to try to make this semantic desktop thing to work.

Thanks, again, and
Best Regards
Francisco

2015-08-21 22:36 GMT-03:00 Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com>:

> Fernando Rodriguez wrote:
> > On Friday, August 21, 2015 6:27:36 PM Dale wrote:
> >> Francisco Ares wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> In fact, I can only suppose there's something related to changing from
> >>> nepomuk to baloo:
> >>>
> >>> Now, every time I log in, a window pops up asking for root password.
> >>> The window title is "PolicyKit - KDE" and pressing the button
> >>> "Details", it shows:
> >>>
> >>> Action: Folder Watch Limit
> >>> polkit.subject-pid:    5254
> >>> polkit.caller-pid:     6699
> >>>
> >>> Looking for those PIDs:
> >>>
> >>> ~ $ ps -A | grep 5254
> >>>  5254 ?        00:00:07 baloo_file
> >>>
> >>> and PID 6699 doesn't show up any more, probably the process has
> >>> already ended.
> >>>
> >>> Did I miss something? How do I set up Baloo? Looking on the net, I
> >>> only found how to set up a file ~/.kde4/share/config/nepomukserverrc
> >>> (that was nonexistent, which seemed strange), is there something else
> >>> regarding the database it might be willing to use?
> >>>
> >>> Thank you all.
> >>> Francisco
> >>>
> >>
> >> Reading your posts, it seems you don't really want this "feature" of
> >> KDE.  Why not disable the thing?  I have this in make.conf:
> >>
> >> -nepomuk  -semantic-desktop
> >>
> >> So far, that has disabled the whole desktop search thingy, that I also
> >> found to be a pest and never needed.
> >>
> >> Just a thought, in case you wasn't aware.
> >>
> >> Dale
> >>
> >> :-)  :-)
> > Do you use kmail? I disabled nepomuk at one point and I wasn't able to
> access
> > my contacts on kmail. I think it's the same with baloo. And from what
> I've
> > read the plan is for more applications to use it so you may miss
> important
> > features. They recommend just disabling file indexing or adding your home
> > directory to the exclusion list on system settings, But after doing that
> I
> > still got that popup a few times until I okay'd it.
> >
>
>
> I used to use Kmail until all this mess started.  I think the last I
> used Kmail was back in KDE3.  When I saw all this mess coming, I
> switched to Seamonkey.  Seamonkey does all my email stuff and I'm happy
> with it.  I do wish the sound notification thingy would work tho.  Maybe
> I just need to sit down one day and try to figure out why it doesn't
> work.  Sound works everywhere else.  Still, it does what I really need
> without to much bloat.
>
> I installed KDE with the kde-meta.  It basically installs everything but
> the kitchen sink.  To be honest tho, I could likely install it in a
> better way that leaves out TONS of stuff I never use.  This file indexer
> thingy is one of the ones I have never had a need for.  If I want to
> find some file, locate, find and etc works for those rare occasions.  It
> is rare since I'm fairly well organized with my stuff.  Well, computer
> files at least.  My closet and shop is a different matter tho.  lol
>
> My point was that this can be disabled IF it is not needed.  If it is
> needed, then fixing it is the solution.  If it is not, disable it and
> shove the problem into the trash can.  ;-)
>
> Dale
>
> :-)  :-)
>
>
>

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Re: [gentoo-user] nepomuk gone, baloo enters

[Francisco Ares]

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2015-08-24 9:14 GMT-03:00 Francisco Ares <frares@gmail.com>:

> Thanks, Dale, for your point of view.
>
> But since I'm not the only user (my wife is forced to use it, too ;-) )and
> I am the only one that knows how to use a command line session, for
> instance, I still want to try to make this semantic desktop thing to work.
>
> Thanks, again, and
> Best Regards
> Francisco
>
> 2015-08-21 22:36 GMT-03:00 Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com>:
>
>> Fernando Rodriguez wrote:
>> > On Friday, August 21, 2015 6:27:36 PM Dale wrote:
>> >> Francisco Ares wrote:
>> >>> Hi,
>> >>>
>> >>> In fact, I can only suppose there's something related to changing from
>> >>> nepomuk to baloo:
>> >>>
>> >>> Now, every time I log in, a window pops up asking for root password.
>> >>> The window title is "PolicyKit - KDE" and pressing the button
>> >>> "Details", it shows:
>> >>>
>> >>> Action: Folder Watch Limit
>> >>> polkit.subject-pid:    5254
>> >>> polkit.caller-pid:     6699
>> >>>
>> >>> Looking for those PIDs:
>> >>>
>> >>> ~ $ ps -A | grep 5254
>> >>>  5254 ?        00:00:07 baloo_file
>> >>>
>> >>> and PID 6699 doesn't show up any more, probably the process has
>> >>> already ended.
>> >>>
>> >>> Did I miss something? How do I set up Baloo? Looking on the net, I
>> >>> only found how to set up a file ~/.kde4/share/config/nepomukserverrc
>> >>> (that was nonexistent, which seemed strange), is there something else
>> >>> regarding the database it might be willing to use?
>> >>>
>> >>> Thank you all.
>> >>> Francisco
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> Reading your posts, it seems you don't really want this "feature" of
>> >> KDE.  Why not disable the thing?  I have this in make.conf:
>> >>
>> >> -nepomuk  -semantic-desktop
>> >>
>> >> So far, that has disabled the whole desktop search thingy, that I also
>> >> found to be a pest and never needed.
>> >>
>> >> Just a thought, in case you wasn't aware.
>> >>
>> >> Dale
>> >>
>> >> :-)  :-)
>> > Do you use kmail? I disabled nepomuk at one point and I wasn't able to
>> access
>> > my contacts on kmail. I think it's the same with baloo. And from what
>> I've
>> > read the plan is for more applications to use it so you may miss
>> important
>> > features. They recommend just disabling file indexing or adding your
>> home
>> > directory to the exclusion list on system settings, But after doing
>> that I
>> > still got that popup a few times until I okay'd it.
>> >
>>
>>
>> I used to use Kmail until all this mess started.  I think the last I
>> used Kmail was back in KDE3.  When I saw all this mess coming, I
>> switched to Seamonkey.  Seamonkey does all my email stuff and I'm happy
>> with it.  I do wish the sound notification thingy would work tho.  Maybe
>> I just need to sit down one day and try to figure out why it doesn't
>> work.  Sound works everywhere else.  Still, it does what I really need
>> without to much bloat.
>>
>> I installed KDE with the kde-meta.  It basically installs everything but
>> the kitchen sink.  To be honest tho, I could likely install it in a
>> better way that leaves out TONS of stuff I never use.  This file indexer
>> thingy is one of the ones I have never had a need for.  If I want to
>> find some file, locate, find and etc works for those rare occasions.  It
>> is rare since I'm fairly well organized with my stuff.  Well, computer
>> files at least.  My closet and shop is a different matter tho.  lol
>>
>> My point was that this can be disabled IF it is not needed.  If it is
>> needed, then fixing it is the solution.  If it is not, disable it and
>> shove the problem into the trash can.  ;-)
>>
>> Dale
>>
>> :-)  :-)
>>
>>
>>
>
Thanks to all that have posted.

I tried a "clean start":  I've deleted all related (at least all that I
could find) files used by baloo (just kept some backup copies in a ZIP
file, just in case).

As expected, all of them are back, and also that popup window, requiring
root password.

I guess, now, I am (we are) looking on the wrong place, perhaps this is a
global setting, not a user one.

Going to check this out.

Thanks again, and
Best Regards
Francisco

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Re: [gentoo-user] nepomuk gone, baloo enters

[Francisco Ares]

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2015-08-24 10:13 GMT-03:00 Francisco Ares <frares@gmail.com>:

>
>
> 2015-08-24 9:14 GMT-03:00 Francisco Ares <frares@gmail.com>:
>
>> Thanks, Dale, for your point of view.
>>
>> But since I'm not the only user (my wife is forced to use it, too ;-)
>> )and I am the only one that knows how to use a command line session, for
>> instance, I still want to try to make this semantic desktop thing to work.
>>
>> Thanks, again, and
>> Best Regards
>> Francisco
>>
>> 2015-08-21 22:36 GMT-03:00 Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com>:
>>
>>> Fernando Rodriguez wrote:
>>> > On Friday, August 21, 2015 6:27:36 PM Dale wrote:
>>> >> Francisco Ares wrote:
>>> >>> Hi,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> In fact, I can only suppose there's something related to changing
>>> from
>>> >>> nepomuk to baloo:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Now, every time I log in, a window pops up asking for root password.
>>> >>> The window title is "PolicyKit - KDE" and pressing the button
>>> >>> "Details", it shows:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Action: Folder Watch Limit
>>> >>> polkit.subject-pid:    5254
>>> >>> polkit.caller-pid:     6699
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Looking for those PIDs:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> ~ $ ps -A | grep 5254
>>> >>>  5254 ?        00:00:07 baloo_file
>>> >>>
>>> >>> and PID 6699 doesn't show up any more, probably the process has
>>> >>> already ended.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Did I miss something? How do I set up Baloo? Looking on the net, I
>>> >>> only found how to set up a file ~/.kde4/share/config/nepomukserverrc
>>> >>> (that was nonexistent, which seemed strange), is there something else
>>> >>> regarding the database it might be willing to use?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Thank you all.
>>> >>> Francisco
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> >> Reading your posts, it seems you don't really want this "feature" of
>>> >> KDE.  Why not disable the thing?  I have this in make.conf:
>>> >>
>>> >> -nepomuk  -semantic-desktop
>>> >>
>>> >> So far, that has disabled the whole desktop search thingy, that I also
>>> >> found to be a pest and never needed.
>>> >>
>>> >> Just a thought, in case you wasn't aware.
>>> >>
>>> >> Dale
>>> >>
>>> >> :-)  :-)
>>> > Do you use kmail? I disabled nepomuk at one point and I wasn't able to
>>> access
>>> > my contacts on kmail. I think it's the same with baloo. And from what
>>> I've
>>> > read the plan is for more applications to use it so you may miss
>>> important
>>> > features. They recommend just disabling file indexing or adding your
>>> home
>>> > directory to the exclusion list on system settings, But after doing
>>> that I
>>> > still got that popup a few times until I okay'd it.
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>> I used to use Kmail until all this mess started.  I think the last I
>>> used Kmail was back in KDE3.  When I saw all this mess coming, I
>>> switched to Seamonkey.  Seamonkey does all my email stuff and I'm happy
>>> with it.  I do wish the sound notification thingy would work tho.  Maybe
>>> I just need to sit down one day and try to figure out why it doesn't
>>> work.  Sound works everywhere else.  Still, it does what I really need
>>> without to much bloat.
>>>
>>> I installed KDE with the kde-meta.  It basically installs everything but
>>> the kitchen sink.  To be honest tho, I could likely install it in a
>>> better way that leaves out TONS of stuff I never use.  This file indexer
>>> thingy is one of the ones I have never had a need for.  If I want to
>>> find some file, locate, find and etc works for those rare occasions.  It
>>> is rare since I'm fairly well organized with my stuff.  Well, computer
>>> files at least.  My closet and shop is a different matter tho.  lol
>>>
>>> My point was that this can be disabled IF it is not needed.  If it is
>>> needed, then fixing it is the solution.  If it is not, disable it and
>>> shove the problem into the trash can.  ;-)
>>>
>>> Dale
>>>
>>> :-)  :-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
> Thanks to all that have posted.
>
> I tried a "clean start":  I've deleted all related (at least all that I
> could find) files used by baloo (just kept some backup copies in a ZIP
> file, just in case).
>
> As expected, all of them are back, and also that popup window, requiring
> root password.
>
> I guess, now, I am (we are) looking on the wrong place, perhaps this is a
> global setting, not a user one.
>
> Going to check this out.
>
> Thanks again, and
> Best Regards
> Francisco
>


Found this:

~ # cat /etc/dbus-1/system.d/org.kde.baloo.filewatch.conf
<!DOCTYPE busconfig PUBLIC
 "-//freedesktop//DTD D-BUS Bus Configuration 1.0//EN"
 "http://www.freedesktop.org/standards/dbus/1.0/busconfig.dtd">
<busconfig>

  <!-- Only user root can own the foo helper -->
  <policy user="root">
    <allow own="org.kde.baloo.filewatch"/>
  </policy>

</busconfig>


Looks like there might be something related to what I am facing, isn't it?

Googling the file name, I got this:

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=339465
https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/2ibdf7/what_is_baloo_file_watch_and_why_does_it_need/
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/kde-4-13-3-%5Balien%5D-annoying-kde-polkit-and-wallet-prompts-4175517244/

So, got back to the first and (as it seems) proper solution, but with no
effects, for now.

Perhaps I'll just wait and see future upgrades on baloo.  Meanwhile I will
try to filter more directories not to be indexed, and/or increasing the
limit on "/etc/sysctl.d/97-kde-baloo-filewatch-inotify.conf" by hand.

Thanks!
Francisco

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Re: [gentoo-user] nepomuk gone, baloo enters

[Fernando Rodriguez]

On Monday, August 24, 2015 11:31:04 AM Francisco Ares wrote:
> 2015-08-24 10:13 GMT-03:00 Francisco Ares <frares@gmail.com>:
> 
> >
> >
> > 2015-08-24 9:14 GMT-03:00 Francisco Ares <frares@gmail.com>:
> >
> >> Thanks, Dale, for your point of view.
> >>
> >> But since I'm not the only user (my wife is forced to use it, too ;-)
> >> )and I am the only one that knows how to use a command line session, for
> >> instance, I still want to try to make this semantic desktop thing to 
work.
> >>
> >> Thanks, again, and
> >> Best Regards
> >> Francisco
> >>
> >> 2015-08-21 22:36 GMT-03:00 Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com>:
> >>
> >>> Fernando Rodriguez wrote:
> >>> > On Friday, August 21, 2015 6:27:36 PM Dale wrote:
> >>> >> Francisco Ares wrote:
> >>> >>> Hi,
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> In fact, I can only suppose there's something related to changing
> >>> from
> >>> >>> nepomuk to baloo:
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Now, every time I log in, a window pops up asking for root password.
> >>> >>> The window title is "PolicyKit - KDE" and pressing the button
> >>> >>> "Details", it shows:
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Action: Folder Watch Limit
> >>> >>> polkit.subject-pid:    5254
> >>> >>> polkit.caller-pid:     6699
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Looking for those PIDs:
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> ~ $ ps -A | grep 5254
> >>> >>>  5254 ?        00:00:07 baloo_file
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> and PID 6699 doesn't show up any more, probably the process has
> >>> >>> already ended.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Did I miss something? How do I set up Baloo? Looking on the net, I
> >>> >>> only found how to set up a file ~/.kde4/share/config/nepomukserverrc
> >>> >>> (that was nonexistent, which seemed strange), is there something 
else
> >>> >>> regarding the database it might be willing to use?
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Thank you all.
> >>> >>> Francisco
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Reading your posts, it seems you don't really want this "feature" of
> >>> >> KDE.  Why not disable the thing?  I have this in make.conf:
> >>> >>
> >>> >> -nepomuk  -semantic-desktop
> >>> >>
> >>> >> So far, that has disabled the whole desktop search thingy, that I 
also
> >>> >> found to be a pest and never needed.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Just a thought, in case you wasn't aware.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Dale
> >>> >>
> >>> >> :-)  :-)
> >>> > Do you use kmail? I disabled nepomuk at one point and I wasn't able to
> >>> access
> >>> > my contacts on kmail. I think it's the same with baloo. And from what
> >>> I've
> >>> > read the plan is for more applications to use it so you may miss
> >>> important
> >>> > features. They recommend just disabling file indexing or adding your
> >>> home
> >>> > directory to the exclusion list on system settings, But after doing
> >>> that I
> >>> > still got that popup a few times until I okay'd it.
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I used to use Kmail until all this mess started.  I think the last I
> >>> used Kmail was back in KDE3.  When I saw all this mess coming, I
> >>> switched to Seamonkey.  Seamonkey does all my email stuff and I'm happy
> >>> with it.  I do wish the sound notification thingy would work tho.  Maybe
> >>> I just need to sit down one day and try to figure out why it doesn't
> >>> work.  Sound works everywhere else.  Still, it does what I really need
> >>> without to much bloat.
> >>>
> >>> I installed KDE with the kde-meta.  It basically installs everything but
> >>> the kitchen sink.  To be honest tho, I could likely install it in a
> >>> better way that leaves out TONS of stuff I never use.  This file indexer
> >>> thingy is one of the ones I have never had a need for.  If I want to
> >>> find some file, locate, find and etc works for those rare occasions.  It
> >>> is rare since I'm fairly well organized with my stuff.  Well, computer
> >>> files at least.  My closet and shop is a different matter tho.  lol
> >>>
> >>> My point was that this can be disabled IF it is not needed.  If it is
> >>> needed, then fixing it is the solution.  If it is not, disable it and
> >>> shove the problem into the trash can.  ;-)
> >>>
> >>> Dale
> >>>
> >>> :-)  :-)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> > Thanks to all that have posted.
> >
> > I tried a "clean start":  I've deleted all related (at least all that I
> > could find) files used by baloo (just kept some backup copies in a ZIP
> > file, just in case).
> >
> > As expected, all of them are back, and also that popup window, requiring
> > root password.
> >
> > I guess, now, I am (we are) looking on the wrong place, perhaps this is a
> > global setting, not a user one.
> >
> > Going to check this out.
> >
> > Thanks again, and
> > Best Regards
> > Francisco
> >
> 
> 
> Found this:
> 
> ~ # cat /etc/dbus-1/system.d/org.kde.baloo.filewatch.conf
> <!DOCTYPE busconfig PUBLIC
>  "-//freedesktop//DTD D-BUS Bus Configuration 1.0//EN"
>  "http://www.freedesktop.org/standards/dbus/1.0/busconfig.dtd">
> <busconfig>
> 
>   <!-- Only user root can own the foo helper -->
>   <policy user="root">
>     <allow own="org.kde.baloo.filewatch"/>
>   </policy>
> 
> </busconfig>
> 
> 
> Looks like there might be something related to what I am facing, isn't it?
> 
> Googling the file name, I got this:
> 
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=339465
> 
https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/2ibdf7/what_is_baloo_file_watch_and_why_does_it_need/
> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/kde-4-13-3-%5Balien%5D-annoying-kde-polkit-and-wallet-prompts-4175517244/
> 
> So, got back to the first and (as it seems) proper solution, but with no
> effects, for now.
> 
> Perhaps I'll just wait and see future upgrades on baloo.  Meanwhile I will
> try to filter more directories not to be indexed, and/or increasing the
> limit on "/etc/sysctl.d/97-kde-baloo-filewatch-inotify.conf" by hand.
> 
> Thanks!
> Francisco

I'm not following this thread closely, but if the problem is that you keep 
being prompted after updating the file or granting baloo permission to update 
it. It may be that you don't have the sysctl init script set to run on boot 
(if you're using openrc). So run:

rc-update add sysctl boot

-- 
Fernando Rodriguez