From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1R35eT-0007fT-Js for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 12:30:18 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CD09D21C07E; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 12:30:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtpq3.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq3.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.34.166]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3A1C21C077 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 12:28:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [212.54.34.134] (helo=smtp3.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq3.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R35cr-00064S-AA for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 14:28:37 +0200 Received: from 5ed027a1.cm-7-1a.dynamic.ziggo.nl ([94.208.39.161] helo=data.antarean.org) by smtp3.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R35cp-0001LX-PP for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 14:28:35 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by data.antarean.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03E7ACF0 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 14:28:39 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at antarean.org Received: from data.antarean.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (data.antarean.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IvF9KlfKsKOP for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 14:28:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: from eve.localnet (eve.lan.antarean.org [10.20.13.50]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by data.antarean.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A2459B50 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 14:28:37 +0200 (CEST) From: Joost Roeleveld To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 14:28:33 +0200 Message-ID: <2793758.ZK8UVICWjH@eve> User-Agent: KMail/4.7.0 (Linux/2.6.36-gentoo-r5; KDE/4.7.0; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <4E6DF7C1.6030108@kutulu.org> References: <201108191109.34984.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> <2175192.xvVnEsN11n@eve> <4E6DF7C1.6030108@kutulu.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-ID: 1R35cp-0001LX-PP X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamCheck: geen spam, SpamAssassin (niet cached, score=-0.692, vereist 5, BAYES_00 -1.90, KHOP_DYNAMIC 0.73, RDNS_DYNAMIC 0.98, RP_MATCHES_RCVD -0.50) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-From: joost@antarean.org X-Spam-Status: No X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 762845bcc9d6d0bd27b618e6b3e24c56 On Monday, September 12, 2011 08:14:57 AM Mike Edenfield wrote: > On 9/12/2011 3:12 AM, Joost Roeleveld wrote: > > On Saturday, September 10, 2011 02:54:58 AM Dale wrote: > >> If we are so skilled, why is the Fedora dev not listening you reckon? > > > > Is the Fedora dev aware of non-Fedora installations? > > He is, because a Gentoo user/dev explicitly pointed out the > problems this will cause Gentoo. Awareness comes at different levels. It's like the difference of looking and seeing. :) He seems to recall there is a world outside of Fedora, but doesn't seem to believe it... > His response, to me, appeared to be a heavy dose of "way > more people use Fedora/Debian/etc than Gentoo so I'm > tailoring my fix to those people" combined with a touch of > "if you're running Gentoo you're smart enough to figure this > out on your own". Possibly with a subtle, hidden hint of > "that's what you get for not running Fedora", but I could be > imagining that. Of that's how he sees it, then he is admitting that Gentoo-users are smarter then he is.... I like the compliment :) -- Joost