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* [gentoo-user] get rid of xf86-video-* drivers
@ 2008-10-09 13:52 Pawel K
  2008-10-09 14:00 ` Sascha Hlusiak
  2008-10-09 23:12 ` Andrey Falko
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Pawel K @ 2008-10-09 13:52 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

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Hello

I would  like to get rid of all unnecessary x11-drivers/xf86-video-* packages.
I do NOT want to migrate to "Modular X".

I set my video card in /etc/make.conf as follows:
VIDEO_CARDS="i810"

What should I do now. Just "emerge --unmerge" on each unnecessary package ?
Is it sufficient for emerge to NOT to install drivers on an upgrade xorg in the future.

Thanks for answer.




      

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* Re: [gentoo-user] get rid of xf86-video-* drivers
  2008-10-09 13:52 [gentoo-user] get rid of xf86-video-* drivers Pawel K
@ 2008-10-09 14:00 ` Sascha Hlusiak
  2008-10-09 16:53   ` Erik Hahn
  2008-10-09 23:12 ` Andrey Falko
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Sascha Hlusiak @ 2008-10-09 14:00 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user; +Cc: pawlaczus

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* Re: [gentoo-user] get rid of xf86-video-* drivers
  2008-10-09 16:53   ` Erik Hahn
@ 2008-10-09 15:04     ` Norberto Bensa
  2008-10-09 15:40       ` Erik Hahn
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Norberto Bensa @ 2008-10-09 15:04 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

Quoting Erik Hahn <erik_hahn@gmx.de>:

> Please, disable HTML in your client or at least tell it to send a plain
> text version as well. I see hardly readable raw HTML code in mutt.

Then change your MUA :)

I mean, there are more important reasons to not send HTML to public  
mailing lists than your MUA's inability to read them.

Regards,
Norberto


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* Re: [gentoo-user] get rid of xf86-video-* drivers
  2008-10-09 15:04     ` Norberto Bensa
@ 2008-10-09 15:40       ` Erik Hahn
  2008-10-09 15:43         ` Mike
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Erik Hahn @ 2008-10-09 15:40 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 01:04:00PM -0200, Norberto Bensa wrote:
> Quoting Erik Hahn <erik_hahn@gmx.de>:
>
>> Please, disable HTML in your client or at least tell it to send a plain
>> text version as well. I see hardly readable raw HTML code in mutt.
>
> Then change your MUA :)

Sure, but that's the one reason bugging me ;)
-- 
hackerkey://v4sw5hw2ln3pr5ck0ma2u7LwXm4l7Gi2e2t4b7Ken4/7a16s0r1p-5.62/-6.56g5OR



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* Re: [gentoo-user] get rid of xf86-video-* drivers
  2008-10-09 15:40       ` Erik Hahn
@ 2008-10-09 15:43         ` Mike
  2008-10-09 21:37           ` Willie Wong
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Mike @ 2008-10-09 15:43 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

Erik Hahn wrote:

>>> Please, disable HTML in your client or at least tell it to send a plain
>>> text version as well. I see hardly readable raw HTML code in mutt.

You may want to add this line to muttrc:

auto_view text/html

Mike



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* Re: [gentoo-user] get rid of xf86-video-* drivers
  2008-10-09 14:00 ` Sascha Hlusiak
@ 2008-10-09 16:53   ` Erik Hahn
  2008-10-09 15:04     ` Norberto Bensa
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Erik Hahn @ 2008-10-09 16:53 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

Please, disable HTML in your client or at least tell it to send a plain
text version as well. I see hardly readable raw HTML code in mutt.

	-Erik

-- 
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* Re: [gentoo-user] get rid of xf86-video-* drivers
  2008-10-09 15:43         ` Mike
@ 2008-10-09 21:37           ` Willie Wong
  2008-10-09 21:42             ` Mike
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Willie Wong @ 2008-10-09 21:37 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 11:43:42AM -0400, Penguin Lover Mike squawked:
> Erik Hahn wrote:
>
>>>> Please, disable HTML in your client or at least tell it to send a plain
>>>> text version as well. I see hardly readable raw HTML code in mutt.
>
> You may want to add this line to muttrc:
>
> auto_view text/html
>

That doesn't always help: I've been griping about this on my local TUG
list just recently. Some (web)mail clients, when sending HTML
mails, uses some sort of funky graphics/CSS formatting to denote
quotes, and sometimes they even strip the quote marks ('>') that sane
mail clients insert and replace them with their funky graphics. 

I complained to my local TUG this time because some guy responded an
e-mail 6 or 7 level down in a thread and auto_view + dumping of html
by lynx makes the quotes completely disappear, and the discussion
becomes completely impossible to follow!

Besides: if one is already using the bandwidth to send mail in HTML, 
why not make it MIME-multipart with a plain text version included too?

(BTW, the above gripe is not directed at anyone on this list in
particular, rather is an anecdote to illustrate a point.)

W
-- 
"I assume you've all done stationary phase integrals...right?"
~DeathMech, S. Sondhi. P-town PHY 205
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* Re: [gentoo-user] get rid of xf86-video-* drivers
  2008-10-09 21:37           ` Willie Wong
@ 2008-10-09 21:42             ` Mike
  2008-10-09 22:52               ` Alan McKinnon
  2008-10-10  6:22               ` HTML emails was: " Stroller
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Mike @ 2008-10-09 21:42 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

Willie Wong wrote:

> Besides: if one is already using the bandwidth to send mail in HTML, 
> why not make it MIME-multipart with a plain text version included too?

I agree there should be a plain text version included AND the html 
should be standards compliant, in a perfect world.

Mike



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* Re: [gentoo-user] get rid of xf86-video-* drivers
  2008-10-09 21:42             ` Mike
@ 2008-10-09 22:52               ` Alan McKinnon
  2008-10-09 23:03                 ` Neil Bothwick
                                   ` (2 more replies)
  2008-10-10  6:22               ` HTML emails was: " Stroller
  1 sibling, 3 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Alan McKinnon @ 2008-10-09 22:52 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

On Thursday 09 October 2008 23:42:00 Mike wrote:
> Willie Wong wrote:
> > Besides: if one is already using the bandwidth to send mail in HTML,
> > why not make it MIME-multipart with a plain text version included too?
>
> I agree there should be a plain text version included AND the html
> should be standards compliant, in a perfect world.

I'm still looking for a solution to the idiots in the HR department that 
insist on sending all their touchy-feely-it's-a-wonderful-world motivational 
mails as a single giant jpeg...



-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



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* Re: [gentoo-user] get rid of xf86-video-* drivers
  2008-10-09 22:52               ` Alan McKinnon
@ 2008-10-09 23:03                 ` Neil Bothwick
  2008-10-09 23:04                 ` Robert Bridge
  2008-10-09 23:21                 ` Willie Wong
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Neil Bothwick @ 2008-10-09 23:03 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

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On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 00:52:17 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:

> I'm still looking for a solution to the idiots in the HR department
> that insist on sending all their touchy-feely-it's-a-wonderful-world
> motivational mails as a single giant jpeg...

Napalm?


-- 
Neil Bothwick

A computer scientist is someone who, when told to "Go to Hell,"
sees the "go to," rather than the destination, as harmful.

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* Re: [gentoo-user] get rid of xf86-video-* drivers
  2008-10-09 22:52               ` Alan McKinnon
  2008-10-09 23:03                 ` Neil Bothwick
@ 2008-10-09 23:04                 ` Robert Bridge
  2008-10-09 23:21                 ` Willie Wong
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Robert Bridge @ 2008-10-09 23:04 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

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On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 00:52:17 +0200
Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thursday 09 October 2008 23:42:00 Mike wrote:
> > Willie Wong wrote:
> > > Besides: if one is already using the bandwidth to send mail in
> > > HTML, why not make it MIME-multipart with a plain text version
> > > included too?
> >
> > I agree there should be a plain text version included AND the html
> > should be standards compliant, in a perfect world.
> 
> I'm still looking for a solution to the idiots in the HR department
> that insist on sending all their touchy-feely-it's-a-wonderful-world
> motivational mails as a single giant jpeg...
> 

/dev/null not do it?

-- 
Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments.
See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html

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* Re: [gentoo-user] get rid of xf86-video-* drivers
  2008-10-09 13:52 [gentoo-user] get rid of xf86-video-* drivers Pawel K
  2008-10-09 14:00 ` Sascha Hlusiak
@ 2008-10-09 23:12 ` Andrey Falko
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Andrey Falko @ 2008-10-09 23:12 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 6:52 AM, Pawel K <pawlaczus@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hello
>
> I would  like to get rid of all unnecessary x11-drivers/xf86-video-*
> packages.
> I do NOT want to migrate to "Modular X".
>
> I set my video card in /etc/make.conf as follows:
> VIDEO_CARDS="i810"
>
> What should I do now. Just "emerge --unmerge" on each unnecessary package ?
> Is it sufficient for emerge to NOT to install drivers on an upgrade xorg in
> the future.
>
> Thanks for answer.
>
>
>

I would just do the following:

emerge --depclean world -a
revdep-rebuild -a

--depclean will remove packages that were brought in as dependencies,
but no longer are dependencies. revdep-rebuild will make sure that
nothing got removed by revdep-rebuild that should not have been
removed.



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* Re: [gentoo-user] get rid of xf86-video-* drivers
  2008-10-09 22:52               ` Alan McKinnon
  2008-10-09 23:03                 ` Neil Bothwick
  2008-10-09 23:04                 ` Robert Bridge
@ 2008-10-09 23:21                 ` Willie Wong
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Willie Wong @ 2008-10-09 23:21 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 12:52:17AM +0200, Penguin Lover Alan McKinnon squawked:
> I'm still looking for a solution to the idiots in the HR department that 
> insist on sending all their touchy-feely-it's-a-wonderful-world motivational 
> mails as a single giant jpeg...
> 
Actually, I prefer it that way. What I can't see can't annoy me. ;)

W
-- 
"There are of course many problems connected with life, of 
which some of the most popular are `Why are people born?' 
`Why do they die?' `Why do they spend so much of the 
intervening time wearing digital watches?'" 

- The Book. 
Sortir en Pantoufles: up 671 days, 22:01



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* HTML emails      was:  Re: [gentoo-user] get rid of xf86-video-* drivers
  2008-10-09 21:42             ` Mike
  2008-10-09 22:52               ` Alan McKinnon
@ 2008-10-10  6:22               ` Stroller
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Stroller @ 2008-10-10  6:22 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user


On 9 Oct 2008, at 22:42, Mike wrote:
> Willie Wong wrote:
>
>> Besides: if one is already using the bandwidth to send mail in  
>> HTML, why not make it MIME-multipart with a plain text version  
>> included too?
>
> I agree there should be a plain text version included AND the html  
> should be standards compliant, in a perfect world.

Is there a standard for HTML emails to be compliant with?
I thought not.

Stroller.




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