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HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[confabulate@kintzios.com] X-Rspamd-Action: no action X-Archives-Salt: c32894a2-538d-42ba-ab01-441701aaa69b X-Archives-Hash: dca5d9f461ed2e767fb144e58c44e18e --nextPart13935121.RDIVbhacDa Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"; protected-headers="v1" From: Michael To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: confabulate@kintzios.com Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2024 11:56:40 +0100 Message-ID: <2682546.X9hSmTKtgW@rogueboard> In-Reply-To: <26143.42576.227523.275372@woitok.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 On Wednesday, 17 April 2024 11:37:04 BST Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > Grant, > > On Tuesday, 2024-04-16 19:26:25 -0000, you wrote: > > ... > > That means that all gentoo-sources stable kernels are "longterm" > > kernel versions on kernel.org. It does not mean that all "longterm" > > kernel versions from kernel.org are available as "stable" in > > gentoo-sources. > > > > It is a statement that "gentoo-sources stable" is a subset of > > "kernel.org longterm". > > This sort of deteriorates into a debate about words rather than meanings > without explaining HOW LONG such a series of related kernels are main- > tained and provided. After all, "longterm" or "LTS" suggest that these > lines of developement are less short-lived than others. To give an ex- > ample: the oldest "longterm" kernels listed on "kernel.org" are 4.19.*, > 5.4.* and 5.10.*. Of these only 5.10.* is still available from Gentoo. > > Digging through my Gentoo installation logs, I can see that 4.19.72 was > one of the first kernels I built myself. This was somewhen in the mid- > dle of 2019, that is, not yet five years back. And this kernel line has > already vanished from Gentoo. So what time span are we talking about > when we say "LTS Gentoo kernel"? Roughly four, three or two years? And > why is the support provided by Gentoo significantly shorter than that by > "kernel.org"? > > Sincerely, > Rainer LTS kernels were being supported for ~6 years, although the projected EOL I see here indicates later LTS releases may not be supported for as long: https://www.kernel.org/category/releases.html The stable gentoo-sources are tree cleaned more frequently, so the oldest stable release for amd64 in portage is now 5.10.212: $ eix gentoo-sources [I] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources Available versions: (5.10.208) *5.10.208^bs (5.10.212) 5.10.212^bs (5.10.213) ~5.10.213^bs (5.10.214) ~5.10.214^bs (5.10.215) ~5.10.215^bs (5.15.147) *5.15.147^bs (5.15.151) 5.15.151^bs (5.15.152) ~5.15.152^bs (5.15.153) ~5.15.153^bs (5.15.154) ~5.15.154^bs (5.15.155) ~5.15.155^bs (6.1.74) *6.1.74^bs (6.1.81) 6.1.81^bs (6.1.83) ~6.1.83^bs (6.1.84) ~6.1.84^bs (6.1.85) ~6.1.85^bs (6.1.86) ~6.1.86^bs (6.6.13) *6.6.13^bs (6.6.21) 6.6.21^bs (6.6.24) ~6.6.24^bs (6.6.25) ~6.6.25^bs (6.6.26) ~6.6.26^bs (6.6.26-r1) ~6.6.26-r1^bs (6.6.27) ~6.6.27^bs (6.8.3) ~6.8.3^bs (6.8.4) ~6.8.4^bs (6.8.5) ~6.8.5^bs (6.8.5-r1) ~6.8.5-r1^bs (6.8.6) ~6.8.6^bs {build experimental symlink} Installed versions: 6.6.21(6.6.21)^bs(03:21:20 24/03/24)(-build - experimental -symlink) Homepage: https://dev.gentoo.org/~mpagano/genpatches Description: Full sources including the Gentoo patchset for the 6.8 kernel tree --nextPart13935121.RDIVbhacDa Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. 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