From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1R13Lo-0007WD-Te for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 06 Sep 2011 21:38:37 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0001321C1B8; Tue, 6 Sep 2011 21:38:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.22]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9AD9B21C0A3 for ; Tue, 6 Sep 2011 21:35:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 06 Sep 2011 21:35:47 -0000 Received: from p5B0843EA.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO pc.localnet) [91.8.67.234] by mail.gmx.net (mp012) with SMTP; 06 Sep 2011 23:35:47 +0200 X-Authenticated: #13997268 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/Nm5gK7vnNS760cVe1yxX02nY76RvlyMUeEk2bqo NtK4V06nZD/2sZ From: Michael Schreckenbauer To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What is up with the libreoffice ebuild? Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2011 23:35:51 +0200 Message-ID: <2675007.Wa5HbN8vYW@pc> User-Agent: KMail/4.7.0 (Linux/2.6.38-gentoo; KDE/4.7.0; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: <87ehzuiu1y.fsf@newton.gmurray.org.uk> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: e2bdbcdef43eeccceb85b522664de6b4 Am Dienstag, 6. September 2011, 21:12:32 schrieb Grant Edwards: > On 2011-09-06, Canek Pel??ez Vald??s wrote: > > Nobody is forcing you to anything: but upstream projects (like > > LibreOffice) need to fulfill the needs of all their users... not only > > you. Don't force *them* to support every single printing system in the > > planet earth; > > I wasn't complaining about lack of support for other printing systems. > I was complaining about the lack of support for _no_ printing system. > It seems dumb to make somebody without a printer install CUPs seems. Agreed. It could be useful to have cups splitted into client and server ebuilds. Or to have a server-USE for it. I don't know, if this is possible at all or how much work this would be. ebuilds like LO could then depend on cups- client or still work with server-disabled cups. > > Because the Open Source community has limited resources. The > > LibreOffice devs (or maybe the Gentoo ones) choose to support CUPS and > > only CUPS, because it takes care of the most cases, not only yours. > > What about the lack of a CUPS install would make LibreOffice fail? > Does LibreOffice depend on libraries provided by CUPS even if you > don't want to print? > As for cups being "huge", the standard install comprises over 500 > files. That's still huge in my book. Afaict most of these files are related to the web-frontend. And 500 files isn't that much. See firefox for example: ~ $ equery s firefox * www-client/firefox-6.0 Total files : 3801 Total size : 722.95 MiB compared to another browser ~ $ equery s konqueror * kde-base/konqueror-4.7.0 Total files : 255 Total size : 5.81 MiB :) Regards, Michael