From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B59F6158094 for ; Mon, 8 Aug 2022 23:05:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1A03FE0B09; Mon, 8 Aug 2022 23:04:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smarthost01a.sbp.mail.zen.net.uk (smarthost01a.sbp.mail.zen.net.uk [212.23.1.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 66758E0ABF for ; Mon, 8 Aug 2022 23:04:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [82.69.80.10] (helo=wstn.localnet) by smarthost01a.sbp.mail.zen.net.uk with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oLBnp-0003T8-NW for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Mon, 08 Aug 2022 23:04:53 +0000 From: Peter Humphrey To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] About to have fiber internet and need VPN info Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2022 00:04:53 +0100 Message-ID: <2670508.mvXUDI8C0e@wstn> In-Reply-To: References: <570389b9-9690-dd8d-3610-61561196131f@gmail.com> <10145627.nUPlyArG6x@dell_xps> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Originating-smarthost01a-IP: [82.69.80.10] Feedback-ID: 82.69.80.10 X-Archives-Salt: e2a63bc8-6c57-446f-aa07-4414e24d3eff X-Archives-Hash: d190343770ef4e7bc05ac195544b84b1 On Monday, 8 August 2022 17:34:40 BST Laurence Perkins wrote: > They have no reason to bother. At least not in the USA. US courts ruled > decades ago that as soon as you give information to a third party you lose > all expectation of privacy (yes, even if the third party promised privacy > in the contract you have with them.) > Phone voice data and U.S. Mail are specifically protected legally, as are > privileged communications with a lawyer, priest, or doctor (although that > last category is so riddled with exceptions as to barely count). > Otherwise, anybody you do any business with at all can be forced to give up > any and all records they have about you, no warrant required, and can be > ordered not to tell you it's been done. > So government level actors spying on your banking just go to the bank. And > they've been getting more nosey in recent years. Last I heard, any > transaction over $600 gets automatically reported to them, and they keep > talking about lowering that threshold. Thank goodness I don't live in the good ol' US of A. The land of the free? Hm... -- Regards, Peter.