[gentoo-user] acroread woes

[gentoo-user] acroread woes

[James]

Howdy,

I have acroread 9.5.5 installed. It is set as the default pdf
reader for both seamoney and firefox. I mostly use seamonkey, because
it allows for page/font sizing on the fly, via the mouse wheel (middle
button on my logitech mouse).  I'd use firefox more, if I could figure
out dynamic font size adjustments, via the mouse wheel under firebox.
Maybe an addon does this? Scrolling fonts sizes is quinessentially important
to old eyes, imho.

On seamonkey, when I follow a web link to a pdf, I just get a black page on
my browser. Under firefox, I get the pdf to open up to be read,
but can only print postscript files, unless I go to the 
adobe web site; which is not an option for me.

I'm looking for a long term solution that easily allows both
viewing and download of the pdf file; that's how acroread use
to work.  Googling yeilds a myriad of choices and viewpoints, but
I've not found any solutions I'm happy with.

I'm running simple LXDE (soon to be lxqt5 now, so I do not want a hugely
bloated collection of applications, just a simple viewer/download capability
of pdf files.

I also run "noscript" on my browsers now (very cool!). I do not consider it
a problem, when I have to click a button or 2 to allow something
that noscript has identified and filtered as a possilbe point
of caution. I like noscript and have little desire to permanently
disable it, so suggestions must work reasonable well with noscript too.

I've tried MuPDF, but it is a bit spartan and does not (at least
from what I've experienced) allow for simple downloading of the pdf.

Guidance, discussion and suggestions are most welcome!
Maybe another browser will make me happy?

James

Re: [gentoo-user] acroread woes

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 14:48:08 +0000 (UTC), James wrote:

> Guidance, discussion and suggestions are most welcome!
> Maybe another browser will make me happy?

Chromium with the chrome-binary-plugins package will handle PDFs without
acroread.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

At any event, the people whose seats are furthest from
the aisle arrive last.

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Re: [gentoo-user] acroread woes

[Jc García]

2014-07-23 8:48 GMT-06:00 James <wireless@tampabay.rr.com>:
> Howdy,
>
> I have acroread 9.5.5 installed. It is set as the default pdf
> reader for both seamoney and firefox. I mostly use seamonkey, because
> it allows for page/font sizing on the fly, via the mouse wheel (middle
> button on my logitech mouse).  I'd use firefox more, if I could figure
> out dynamic font size adjustments, via the mouse wheel under firebox.
> Maybe an addon does this? Scrolling fonts sizes is quinessentially important
> to old eyes, imho.
>
I'm still young but zooming in browsers and terminals is as important
for me :), Firefox does all you mention to need for me, I can prewiew
pdfs(set prewiew for opening pdfs by default), Ctrl+mouse-wheel zoom
in and out, and the awesome vimperator plugin with its comands
z(I|O)(zoom text and images) and z(i|o)( for zooming only text ) and
repeat with '.'  make my browsing experience the best I have found.
>
> James
>
>

[gentoo-user] Re: acroread woes

[James]

Jc García <jyo.garcia <at> gmail.com> writes:


> > I have acroread 9.5.5 installed. 
> >
> I'm still young but zooming in browsers and terminals is as important
> for me :), Firefox does all you mention to need for me, I can prewiew
> pdfs(set prewiew for opening pdfs by default), Ctrl+mouse-wheel zoom
> in and out, and the awesome vimperator plugin with its comands
> z(I|O)(zoom text and images) and z(i|o)( for zooming only text ) and
> repeat with '.'  make my browsing experience the best I have found.

Very cool. It works fine for firefox.   I still looking  for 
a seamonkey solution.

thx,
James  

Re: [gentoo-user] acroread woes

[Peter Humphrey]

On Wednesday 23 July 2014 14:48:08 James wrote:

> I also run "noscript" on my browsers now (very cool!). I do not consider it
> a problem, when I have to click a button or 2 to allow something
> that noscript has identified and filtered as a possilbe point
> of caution. I like noscript and have little desire to permanently
> disable it, so suggestions must work reasonable well with noscript too.

I used to run noscript, and was often annoyed and frustrated on e-commerce 
sites when a page refused to load. I'd have to tell the script (!) to allow 
this new site, then go back and try again, which often required more data 
input - or even starting again from scratch.

Nowadays I have "yesscript", which claims to be more intelligent about 
blocking scripts. You might like to give it a whirl.

-- 
Regards
Peter

Re: [gentoo-user] acroread woes

[Mick]

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On Wednesday 23 Jul 2014 15:48:08 James wrote:
> Howdy,
> 
> I have acroread 9.5.5 installed. It is set as the default pdf
> reader for both seamoney and firefox. I mostly use seamonkey, because
> it allows for page/font sizing on the fly, via the mouse wheel (middle
> button on my logitech mouse).  I'd use firefox more, if I could figure
> out dynamic font size adjustments, via the mouse wheel under firebox.
> Maybe an addon does this? Scrolling fonts sizes is quinessentially
> important to old eyes, imho.

Ctrl+scroll works here with Firefox for zooming in or out.


> On seamonkey, when I follow a web link to a pdf, I just get a black page on
> my browser. Under firefox, I get the pdf to open up to be read,
> but can only print postscript files, unless I go to the
> adobe web site; which is not an option for me.

I have set FF to ask whether to open or save.  I can open with qpdfviewer 
which is my default pdf viewer application.  No problems printing pdf 
documents with it.


> I'm looking for a long term solution that easily allows both
> viewing and download of the pdf file; that's how acroread use
> to work.  Googling yeilds a myriad of choices and viewpoints, but
> I've not found any solutions I'm happy with.

Isn't this a matter of setting it up your browser (any browser) to ask you 
what to do with pdf content?  Check under Preferences/Applications/pdf.

-- 
Regards,
Mick

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[gentoo-user] Re: acroread woes

[James]

Mick <michaelkintzios <at> gmail.com> writes:


> Ctrl+scroll works here with Firefox for zooming in or out.

Yes, it did not occur to me that this function is under 'hotkeys' (duh).
I found a master listing for FF so it is fine now. 


> I have set FF to ask whether to open or save.  I can open with qpdfviewer 
> which is my default pdf viewer application.  No problems printing pdf 
> documents with it.


Hmmm. I cannot find 'qpdfviewer' even as an overlay?  How did you install it?


> Isn't this a matter of setting it up your browser (any browser) to ask you 
> what to do with pdf content?  Check under Preferences/Applications/pdf.


No not really. No matter what I do no seamonkey, it give a black screen
of death, if I have it default to acroread. So now I set it to ask me
and I can download if I need to, then use acroread from the CLI.  Extra
steps I did not use to have to do; but, I'll live with it for now.
Chromium wants to put too many packages on the system, but I may install
it just for grins (thx Neil).

OK so all is workable now...... sheash.....  hotkeys.......I need sleep....


thx,
James

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: acroread woes

[Mick]

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On Saturday 26 Jul 2014 03:23:18 James wrote:
> Hmmm. I cannot find 'qpdfviewer' even as an overlay?  How did you install
> it?

I beg your pardon!  I meant to have typed "qpdfview":

qfile /usr/bin/qpdfview
app-text/qpdfview (/usr/bin/qpdfview)


$ eix -l qpdfview
[I] app-text/qpdfview
     Available versions:  
            0.4.3	[cups dbus djvu +pdf postscript sqlite +svg synctex 
LINGUAS="ast az bg bs ca cs da de el en_GB eo es eu fi fr he hr id it ky ms my 
pl pt_BR ro ru sk tr ug uk zh_CN"]
       ~    0.4.7	[cups dbus djvu +pdf postscript sqlite +svg synctex 
LINGUAS="ast az bg bs ca cs da de el en_GB eo es eu fi fr gl he hr id it kk ky 
ms my pl pt pt_BR ro ru sk tr ug uk zh_CN"]
     Installed versions:  0.4.3(14:44:10 06/29/13)(cups dbus pdf sqlite svg -
djvu -postscript -synctex LINGUAS="en_GB -ast -az -bg -bs -ca -cs -da -de -el 
-eo -es -eu -fi -fr -he -hr -id -it -ky -ms -my -pl -pt_BR -ro -ru -sk -tr -ug 
-uk -zh_CN")
     Homepage:            http://launchpad.net/qpdfview
     Description:         A tabbed document viewer

-- 
Regards,
Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] acroread woes

[Walter Dnes]

On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 02:48:08PM +0000, James wrote

> I've tried MuPDF, but it is a bit spartan and does not (at least
> from what I've experienced) allow for simple downloading of the pdf.

  If you right-click on a link in most browsers, you should get a
"download" option in the context menu.  That's handled by the browser,
not mupdf.  Now for a couple of mupdf "secrets"...

1) mupdf does download the file from the web to /tmp.  You can find it
there with any "file explorer" app, and copy to where you want it.

2) to select+copy an area of text, hold down the right mouse button
whilst dragging the mouse pointer.  The selected area is automatically
copied to your clipboard.

-- 
Walter Dnes <waltdnes@waltdnes.org>
I don't run "desktop environments"; I run useful applications