From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-user+bounces-123727-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org>) id 1QSwhl-00065Q-UK for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 04 Jun 2011 19:40:18 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1C2351C0B8; Sat, 4 Jun 2011 19:38:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-fx0-f53.google.com (mail-fx0-f53.google.com [209.85.161.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B81351C0B8 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Sat, 4 Jun 2011 19:38:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm8 with SMTP id 8so2401916fxm.40 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Sat, 04 Jun 2011 12:38:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:to:subject:date:message-id:user-agent :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding :content-type; bh=zYz3wf6s+taiM5S51WZmUHa6Z4Xu4BoAAj/1OmxGH3k=; b=AatclxbVmD47qoydGYhzeez7xVw0NNWp2DmqWQ9/kWhcRR60r0D5J/7JRToi6bWwZD XkjnG0L8kDpVskrrSYYsS2izm6vrkhBwdJswIdgFV+TcTBEJwibRb6dDoT3sacacnrfk pK6yzEwBJaBqHuzqTTHHfHdwmLe24VNT7DcF4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:user-agent:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:content-type; b=Ft1gd47wI4tmWoozoX4WlXngxN5T8Ug0mA4ZC2ChcBuJQMRhJh3cdLGGsOdgVzScBT 8xGX3Sz4bwMbMoS9/HIrAlNa9d/SDJyy6jG9Q8a3N8hMnXIDOBgHUwZ6aHNOWZYXghvD g/OqvciPcv/FALiFbjUJbamJL6zdg28CLyNNw= Received: by 10.223.40.85 with SMTP id j21mr438400fae.22.1307216334806; Sat, 04 Jun 2011 12:38:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localnet (p4FC75222.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [79.199.82.34]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b25sm848914fab.4.2011.06.04.12.38.53 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 04 Jun 2011 12:38:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Volker Armin Hemmann <volkerarmin@googlemail.com> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Threads changing Was: OT: website design Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2011 21:38:52 +0200 Message-ID: <2630798.FqQb8rvnce@localhost> User-Agent: KMail/4.6 rc1 (Linux/2.6.39.1; KDE/4.6.3; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <4DEA80A8.5060609@badapple.net> References: <61A321C6-5D7C-49CE-B87B-3E4180958D22@stellar.eclipse.co.uk> <20110604184342.GB23349@gaurahari.merseine.nu> <4DEA80A8.5060609@badapple.net> Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-user+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-user.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 837f1fafffe9f1a2778296788ac7a734 On Saturday 04 June 2011 11:59:52 kashani wrote: > On 6/4/2011 11:43 AM, Indi wrote: > > On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 08:11:09PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> Apparently, though unproven, at 17:20 on Saturday 04 June 2011, Indi > >> did opine > >> > >> thusly: > >>> On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 09:54:11AM -0500, Dale wrote: > >>>> I suspected it was whatever device was being used. Sort of like > >>>> top > >>>> posting. Some people have to top post because the device they are > >>>> using won't let them reply any other way. > >>>> > >>>> I just wonder if there is some setting that could be changed > >>>> somewhere > >>>> to make it work correctly with usenet, or whatever you were using. > >>> > >>> As soon as Alan said it was me, I thought of the difference between > >>> usenet and email headers and that mail2news gateway. It actually > >>> shouldn't be hard to workaround, but having already worked around a > >>> couple of other issues with it I'm ready to just use the email like > >>> "normal folks" and be done fooling with it. :) > >> > >> FWIW, > >> > >> If I set kmail to display just routine ordinary threaded mail there's > >> a lot less thread breakage. It's not all gone, but it is considerably > >> less. > >> > >> Setting kmail to display threads based on "activity" - whatever the > >> blazes that is - breaks things wholesale. I haven't managed to narrow > >> it down at all so I have no idea what the algorithm is. > >> > >> Looks like there's more to this than just usernet<->mail gateway > >> brokenness > > > > I'd switch if *mutt* was breaking threading for other people, but I'm > > pretty sure it isn't. Now kmail and the other pointy-clicky-html-loving > > apps, *those* I don't trust... Tried 'em, found 'em wanting. ;) > > > > It would be good to hear from more people running different MUAs, > > but IMO mutt is the Gold Standard and is almost certaily doing what it's > > supposed to do. > > Whatever you're using is breaking threading in Thunderbird and I can't > think of anyone else lately I've had the problem with. Also mutt has > broken threading in the past and even between different versions of > itself... so calling it a gold standard may be an overstatement. it is golden brown, runny and smelly. Some call it 'gold'. -- #163933