From: "J. Roeleveld" <joost@antarean.org>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] boot problems
Date: Sun, 04 May 2014 12:37:02 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2617277.0prN43vc8H@andromeda> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6603098.FxQB9JV5gG@wstn>
On Sunday, May 04, 2014 09:53:35 AM Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Saturday 03 May 2014 23:04:49 Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
> > I spent nearly the whole day digging around this issue ...
>
> You did better than I did recently: I spent four days at it.
For mission-critical systems, I would have done a clean re-install already
with data copied back from a backup. More then 24 hours is a deadline.
For non-critical, I am willing to invest more time.
> > I wonder if I speak for more users when I say that all this is kind of
> > confusing sometimes ...
>
> I'm with you there, Stefan. I find the whole RAID and LVM area deeply
> mysterious, and the docs I've seen only say what to do, not why. I'd still
> like to find a proper explanation of how it all works.
I used to have a howto bookmarked that gave more detail then the current step-
by-step examples. Unfortunately, that whole website disappeared about 5 or 6
years ago.
Maybe check the old thread where Dale started with LVM. There is a lot of
detail in there.
> > I am not so far to skip the initramfs -> I don't *know* that, I just
> > tested removing the line from grub2 and it failed finding the root-fs.
>
> I've never had an initramfs, seeing no need in my case to keep /usr on its
> own partition.
Same here, until that whole mess started and I ended up using an initramfs.
At the same time, I moved everything except /boot onto RAID-0 for the
desktops.
> > For booting from a plain partition on an SSD I think I shouldn't need an
> > initramfs? Does it have to do with MBR/GPT as well (the SSD is
> > still/again MBR, as UEFI booting broke badly for me back then) ?
>
> As far as I know, the only thing that /requires/ an initramfs is having a
> separate /usr. And I can't help you with GPT or UEFI - sorry.
A seperate " /usr " or " / " on LVM.
> > Maybe I learn more soon ;-)
>
> I sometimes say that life is just one long journey of discovery :-)
It is. And that's what makes life interesting.
--
Joost
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2014-05-03 10:12 [gentoo-user] boot problems Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 10:27 ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-03 10:33 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 10:54 ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-03 11:06 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 11:14 ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-03 10:28 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 10:49 ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-03 10:56 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 11:05 ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-03 11:12 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 11:19 ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-03 11:26 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 11:37 ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-03 13:46 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-05-03 13:48 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 13:59 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-05-03 14:29 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 15:08 ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-03 15:10 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-05-03 15:07 ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-03 11:39 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 12:03 ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-03 12:09 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 12:19 ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-03 12:38 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 18:43 ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-03 12:08 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 12:17 ` Todd Goodman
2014-05-03 12:23 ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-03 13:08 ` Todd Goodman
2014-05-03 13:24 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 12:27 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 12:17 ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-03 12:43 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 12:52 ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-03 12:55 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 13:50 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-05-03 13:57 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 16:40 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 16:51 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 17:00 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 17:25 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-05-03 17:49 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 18:30 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 18:33 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-05-03 18:37 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 18:47 ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-03 18:51 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 18:56 ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-03 19:00 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 19:37 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-05-03 18:30 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-05-03 18:35 ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-03 19:33 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-05-03 19:38 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 19:41 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-05-03 19:53 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 20:23 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-03 20:46 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-05 5:09 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-05-05 6:18 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-05 6:40 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-05-15 6:21 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-05-15 6:49 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-05-15 7:08 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-15 9:14 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-15 9:58 ` covici
2014-05-15 10:00 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-15 18:05 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-05-15 18:27 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-15 18:28 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-15 18:33 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-05-16 9:46 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-16 10:04 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-05-16 11:06 ` Alan McKinnon
2014-05-16 11:14 ` covici
2014-05-16 12:03 ` Neil Bothwick
2014-05-16 12:35 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-16 12:43 ` Neil Bothwick
2014-05-16 13:03 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-16 19:40 ` Neil Bothwick
2014-05-16 12:54 ` covici
2014-05-16 13:05 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-16 14:01 ` covici
2014-05-16 12:13 ` Alan McKinnon
2014-05-16 20:01 ` Marc Joliet
2014-05-16 12:52 ` [gentoo-user] Re: LVM Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-16 19:50 ` [gentoo-user] boot problems Marc Joliet
2014-05-18 0:18 ` Walter Dnes
2014-05-19 10:54 ` Tanstaafl
2014-05-16 11:56 ` Bruce Schultz
2014-05-16 12:10 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-16 17:09 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-05-03 17:09 ` Peter Humphrey
2014-05-03 18:40 ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-03 20:50 ` Peter Humphrey
2014-05-03 21:04 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-04 8:53 ` Peter Humphrey
2014-05-04 9:15 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-04 10:49 ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-04 13:07 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-04 18:40 ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-04 19:03 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-04 19:22 ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-05 6:10 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-05 6:52 ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-05 7:09 ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-05 7:48 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-05 9:14 ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-05 11:25 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-05 12:27 ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-05 14:12 ` [gentoo-user] Re: Qemu/KVM Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-05 19:20 ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-05 7:50 ` [gentoo-user] boot problems Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-04 10:37 ` J. Roeleveld [this message]
2014-05-04 13:22 ` Peter Humphrey
2014-05-04 18:44 ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-04 12:15 ` Neil Bothwick
2014-05-04 18:48 ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-04 20:09 ` Neil Bothwick
2014-05-05 6:14 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-05 6:54 ` J. Roeleveld
2014-05-05 9:02 ` Neil Bothwick
2014-05-05 8:54 ` Tom H
2014-05-03 12:52 ` Tom H
2014-05-03 13:26 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-05-04 1:56 ` Mark Pariente
2014-05-04 9:01 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
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