From: Fernando Rodriguez <frodriguez.developer@outlook.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: This nite's switch to "full multilib"
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2015 15:44:08 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <25972953.vmAZYvdeYI@navi> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55199F5A.8040901@gmail.com>
On Monday, March 30, 2015 9:09:14 PM Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On 30/03/2015 15:04, Holger Hoffstätte wrote:
> > On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 13:44:59 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 12:15:01 +0000 (UTC), Holger Hoffstätte wrote:
> >>
> >>>> Portage does not override your choices, and it certainly does not
> >>>> allow one single ebuild to automagically change the behaviour of
> >>>> multiple other ebuilds. The correct way to bring about changes in
> >>>> behaviour is to add your global choices to make.conf (which is
> >>>> outside the control of the tree), or to add your explicit changes to
> >>>> package.*
> >>>
> >>> ..that just shows the root of the problem: the ABI is not handled
> >>> consistently, but rather as a per-package configuration choice.
> >>
> >> The news item also showed how to make it a global choice, avoiding the
> >> need to multiple per-package directories.
> >
> > I'm not sure that's a solution to the problem at all (which is why I
> > didn't do it on my machines either). Apart from always wasting much more
> > work & resources than necessary for no good reason it doesn't answer the
> > question what happens as soon as I want to build a package that is
> > 64-bit-only - in which case you'd end up in the same situation we have
> > now, just mirrored.
>
>
> Maybe it's time we asked the multilib devs how they intended to deal
> with these questions you raise.
I don't have a problem with the way it is, but I think something like the
following would be nice: instead of just supporting use_flag and -use_flag you
could add something like @use_flag (auto-use flag) that automatically builds the
feature only if needed to satisfy a dependency. That way you're not changing
anything with existing configuration and still got full control over it.
--
Fernando Rodriguez
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-03-30 19:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-03-29 9:58 [gentoo-user] This nite's switch to "full multilib" Yanestra
2015-03-29 12:39 ` Rich Freeman
2015-03-29 15:03 ` wabenbau
2015-03-29 15:20 ` Peter Humphrey
2015-03-29 15:57 ` Mick
2015-03-29 16:08 ` Yanestra
2015-03-29 16:21 ` Mick
2015-03-29 16:43 ` wabenbau
2015-03-29 16:58 ` Mick
2015-03-29 17:22 ` wabenbau
2015-03-30 8:57 ` Peter Humphrey
2015-03-29 17:27 ` [gentoo-user] " Michael Palimaka
2015-03-29 18:03 ` Yanestra
2015-03-29 18:23 ` Rich Freeman
2015-03-29 17:07 ` [gentoo-user] " Alan McKinnon
2015-03-29 17:30 ` Mick
2015-03-29 17:53 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2015-03-29 18:16 ` Alan McKinnon
2015-03-29 22:10 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2015-03-29 22:39 ` Yanestra
2015-03-29 22:51 ` Alan McKinnon
2015-03-30 8:58 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2015-03-30 9:23 ` Mick
2015-03-30 9:39 ` Alan McKinnon
2015-03-30 10:02 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2015-03-30 10:14 ` Alan McKinnon
2015-03-30 10:42 ` [gentoo-user] " Holger Hoffstätte
2015-03-30 11:14 ` Alan McKinnon
2015-03-30 12:15 ` Holger Hoffstätte
2015-03-30 12:44 ` Neil Bothwick
2015-03-30 13:04 ` Holger Hoffstätte
2015-03-30 14:34 ` Neil Bothwick
2015-03-30 15:15 ` Peter Humphrey
2015-03-30 19:09 ` Alan McKinnon
2015-03-30 19:44 ` Fernando Rodriguez [this message]
2015-03-30 19:52 ` Grant Edwards
2015-04-01 18:20 ` Chris Camisa
2015-03-30 19:46 ` Grant Edwards
2015-03-30 20:28 ` Neil Bothwick
2015-03-30 20:39 ` Grant Edwards
2015-04-01 17:28 ` Róbert Čerňanský
2015-04-02 4:42 ` Sebastian Beßler
2015-04-02 5:21 ` Róbert Čerňanský
2015-04-02 8:41 ` Neil Bothwick
2015-04-02 9:29 ` Róbert Čerňanský
2015-04-02 10:01 ` Neil Bothwick
2015-04-02 15:37 ` Grant Edwards
2015-04-02 16:24 ` Rich Freeman
2015-04-03 8:00 ` [gentoo-user] " Stroller
2015-04-03 8:30 ` Dale
2015-04-04 9:39 ` Stroller
2015-04-04 12:33 ` Dale
2015-04-04 22:38 ` Neil Bothwick
2015-04-05 7:24 ` Dale
2015-04-05 9:07 ` Neil Bothwick
2015-04-05 9:41 ` Dale
2015-04-05 12:09 ` Neil Bothwick
2015-04-05 13:27 ` Rich Freeman
2015-04-05 13:39 ` Neil Bothwick
2015-04-05 11:21 ` Rich Freeman
2015-04-05 12:12 ` Neil Bothwick
2015-04-05 20:18 ` [gentoo-user] " James
2015-04-06 8:39 ` [gentoo-user] " Graham Murray
2015-04-04 22:40 ` Neil Bothwick
2015-04-03 9:17 ` Neil Bothwick
2015-04-03 7:52 ` Stroller
2015-04-05 21:36 ` Fernando Rodriguez
2015-04-02 10:40 ` [gentoo-user] " Rich Freeman
2015-03-30 10:31 ` [gentoo-user] " Neil Bothwick
2015-04-01 17:50 ` Róbert Čerňanský
2015-04-01 18:05 ` Rich Freeman
2015-04-02 5:27 ` Róbert Čerňanský
2015-04-02 8:32 ` Neil Bothwick
2015-03-30 10:57 ` Rich Freeman
2015-04-02 22:40 ` Frank Steinmetzger
2015-04-02 23:08 ` Frank Steinmetzger
2015-04-02 23:25 ` Mick
2015-04-03 7:57 ` Stroller
2015-03-30 9:12 ` Dale
2015-03-30 10:34 ` Neil Bothwick
2015-03-30 10:59 ` Dale
2015-03-30 12:40 ` Neil Bothwick
2015-03-30 13:01 ` Peter Humphrey
2015-03-30 13:42 ` Dale
2015-03-30 14:29 ` Neil Bothwick
2015-03-31 0:46 ` Dale
2015-03-31 7:30 ` Neil Bothwick
2015-03-31 10:13 ` Alan McKinnon
2015-03-30 20:01 ` Gevisz
2015-03-29 18:12 ` Alan McKinnon
2015-03-30 9:12 ` Peter Humphrey
2015-03-30 22:23 ` [gentoo-user] " James
2015-04-02 9:31 ` Peter Humphrey
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