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From: Fernando Rodriguez <frodriguez.developer@outlook.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: This nite's switch to "full multilib"
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2015 15:44:08 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <25972953.vmAZYvdeYI@navi> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55199F5A.8040901@gmail.com>

On Monday, March 30, 2015 9:09:14 PM Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On 30/03/2015 15:04, Holger Hoffstätte wrote:
> > On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 13:44:59 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> > 
> >> On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 12:15:01 +0000 (UTC), Holger Hoffstätte wrote:
> >>
> >>>> Portage does not override your choices, and it certainly does not
> >>>> allow one single ebuild to automagically change the behaviour of
> >>>> multiple other ebuilds. The correct way to bring about changes in
> >>>> behaviour is to add your global choices to make.conf (which is
> >>>> outside the control of the tree), or to add your explicit changes to
> >>>> package.*  
> >>>
> >>> ..that just shows the root of the problem: the ABI is not handled
> >>> consistently, but rather as a per-package configuration choice.
> >>
> >> The news item also showed how to make it a global choice, avoiding the
> >> need to multiple per-package directories.
> > 
> > I'm not sure that's a solution to the problem at all (which is why I
> > didn't do it on my machines either). Apart from always wasting much more
> > work & resources than necessary for no good reason it doesn't answer the
> > question what happens as soon as I want to build a package that is
> > 64-bit-only - in which case you'd end up in the same situation we have
> > now, just mirrored.
> 
> 
> Maybe it's time we asked the multilib devs how they intended to deal
> with these questions you raise.

I don't have a problem with the way it is, but I think something like the 
following would be nice: instead of just supporting use_flag and -use_flag you 
could add something like @use_flag (auto-use flag) that automatically builds the 
feature only if needed to satisfy a dependency. That way you're not changing 
anything with existing configuration and still got full control over it.

-- 
Fernando Rodriguez


  reply	other threads:[~2015-03-30 19:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-03-29  9:58 [gentoo-user] This nite's switch to "full multilib" Yanestra
2015-03-29 12:39 ` Rich Freeman
2015-03-29 15:03 ` wabenbau
2015-03-29 15:20   ` Peter Humphrey
2015-03-29 15:57     ` Mick
2015-03-29 16:08   ` Yanestra
2015-03-29 16:21     ` Mick
2015-03-29 16:43       ` wabenbau
2015-03-29 16:58         ` Mick
2015-03-29 17:22           ` wabenbau
2015-03-30  8:57           ` Peter Humphrey
2015-03-29 17:27         ` [gentoo-user] " Michael Palimaka
2015-03-29 18:03           ` Yanestra
2015-03-29 18:23           ` Rich Freeman
2015-03-29 17:07       ` [gentoo-user] " Alan McKinnon
2015-03-29 17:30         ` Mick
2015-03-29 17:53           ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2015-03-29 18:16             ` Alan McKinnon
2015-03-29 22:10               ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2015-03-29 22:39                 ` Yanestra
2015-03-29 22:51                 ` Alan McKinnon
2015-03-30  8:58                   ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2015-03-30  9:23                     ` Mick
2015-03-30  9:39                       ` Alan McKinnon
2015-03-30 10:02                         ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2015-03-30 10:14                           ` Alan McKinnon
2015-03-30 10:42                             ` [gentoo-user] " Holger Hoffstätte
2015-03-30 11:14                               ` Alan McKinnon
2015-03-30 12:15                                 ` Holger Hoffstätte
2015-03-30 12:44                                   ` Neil Bothwick
2015-03-30 13:04                                     ` Holger Hoffstätte
2015-03-30 14:34                                       ` Neil Bothwick
2015-03-30 15:15                                         ` Peter Humphrey
2015-03-30 19:09                                       ` Alan McKinnon
2015-03-30 19:44                                         ` Fernando Rodriguez [this message]
2015-03-30 19:52                                           ` Grant Edwards
2015-04-01 18:20                                             ` Chris Camisa
2015-03-30 19:46                                         ` Grant Edwards
2015-03-30 20:28                                           ` Neil Bothwick
2015-03-30 20:39                                             ` Grant Edwards
2015-04-01 17:28                                 ` Róbert Čerňanský
2015-04-02  4:42                                   ` Sebastian Beßler
2015-04-02  5:21                                     ` Róbert Čerňanský
2015-04-02  8:41                                       ` Neil Bothwick
2015-04-02  9:29                                         ` Róbert Čerňanský
2015-04-02 10:01                                           ` Neil Bothwick
2015-04-02 15:37                                           ` Grant Edwards
2015-04-02 16:24                                             ` Rich Freeman
2015-04-03  8:00                                               ` [gentoo-user] " Stroller
2015-04-03  8:30                                                 ` Dale
2015-04-04  9:39                                                   ` Stroller
2015-04-04 12:33                                                     ` Dale
2015-04-04 22:38                                                       ` Neil Bothwick
2015-04-05  7:24                                                         ` Dale
2015-04-05  9:07                                                           ` Neil Bothwick
2015-04-05  9:41                                                             ` Dale
2015-04-05 12:09                                                               ` Neil Bothwick
2015-04-05 13:27                                                                 ` Rich Freeman
2015-04-05 13:39                                                                   ` Neil Bothwick
2015-04-05 11:21                                                             ` Rich Freeman
2015-04-05 12:12                                                               ` Neil Bothwick
2015-04-05 20:18                                                                 ` [gentoo-user] " James
2015-04-06  8:39                                                         ` [gentoo-user] " Graham Murray
2015-04-04 22:40                                                     ` Neil Bothwick
2015-04-03  9:17                                                 ` Neil Bothwick
2015-04-03  7:52                                             ` Stroller
2015-04-05 21:36                                               ` Fernando Rodriguez
2015-04-02 10:40                                     ` [gentoo-user] " Rich Freeman
2015-03-30 10:31                           ` [gentoo-user] " Neil Bothwick
2015-04-01 17:50                             ` Róbert Čerňanský
2015-04-01 18:05                               ` Rich Freeman
2015-04-02  5:27                                 ` Róbert Čerňanský
2015-04-02  8:32                                 ` Neil Bothwick
2015-03-30 10:57                           ` Rich Freeman
2015-04-02 22:40                       ` Frank Steinmetzger
2015-04-02 23:08                         ` Frank Steinmetzger
2015-04-02 23:25                           ` Mick
2015-04-03  7:57                             ` Stroller
2015-03-30  9:12                   ` Dale
2015-03-30 10:34                     ` Neil Bothwick
2015-03-30 10:59                       ` Dale
2015-03-30 12:40                         ` Neil Bothwick
2015-03-30 13:01                           ` Peter Humphrey
2015-03-30 13:42                           ` Dale
2015-03-30 14:29                             ` Neil Bothwick
2015-03-31  0:46                               ` Dale
2015-03-31  7:30                                 ` Neil Bothwick
2015-03-31 10:13                                 ` Alan McKinnon
2015-03-30 20:01             ` Gevisz
2015-03-29 18:12           ` Alan McKinnon
2015-03-30  9:12             ` Peter Humphrey
2015-03-30 22:23               ` [gentoo-user] " James
2015-04-02  9:31                 ` Peter Humphrey

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