From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28E0A1381F3 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 07:35:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D6279E0023; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 07:35:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pb0-f53.google.com (mail-pb0-f53.google.com [209.85.160.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 654B021C005 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 07:33:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pb0-f53.google.com with SMTP id wz12so3616557pbc.40 for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 23:33:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:from:to:subject:date:message-id:user-agent:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:content-type; bh=ywJowQX3kQ2+e5DMYTqbhLynUqI353ONJpWwal2HajA=; b=lIup+EGysDZHPMDCstsZO7gf3xW+GG0IjTM6VHpysn9W2Qxlcplvg/jpt5jud7gNQe Kfi8uR0pgkp1hXrIyQdX4R5ZEc64/+fRbzIAn51R8bQq4D+2N8KF5FmzHIbfn+CNYvHA qP+v+ukhUUHP1ZdldkDwaIn23VSchYXZfvSSXH0eEhjWDzPU9UDFIlp+QCesB4HNyOoj s9bkxYvN3egOHQALyWBdAPrfYQpqI/cTO7oYN/9l76HbY9h5/4kFxIoM9AqhB/l0G+Wn cNPElD8GSuX1U2WyZu8FLbED9fEjeo1OXjExG/YgxmpAOPKb5ja043JBCT5VEcT1H5uN 4S3Q== Received: by 10.68.233.201 with SMTP id ty9mr48657986pbc.14.1352619238287; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 23:33:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from gentoo.localnet ([101.64.211.228]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ve6sm2142897pbc.58.2012.11.10.23.33.55 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 10 Nov 2012 23:33:57 -0800 (PST) Sender: microcai From: =?utf-8?B?5b6u6JSh?= To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 15:33:15 +0800 Message-ID: <2592463.C9mGjqLMLj@gentoo> User-Agent: KMail/4.9.3 (Linux/3.6.6; KDE/4.9.3; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <509EB17D.7050908@coolmail.se> References: <509DB5E2.5010407@gmail.com> <509EB17D.7050908@coolmail.se> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Archives-Salt: c0fb2614-45ac-4a17-929b-30d677fae90a X-Archives-Hash: a07f6ecbee4bfda882f81d08d1bf281f =E5=9C=A8 2012=E5=B9=B411=E6=9C=8810=E6=97=A5 =E6=98=9F=E6=9C=9F=E5=85=AD= 20:56:45=EF=BC=8Cpk =E5=86=99=E9=81=93=EF=BC=9A > On 2012-11-10 03:03, walt wrote: > > :) systemd is coming whether you or I like it or not so I'm trying= to > >=20 > > stay a bit ahead of the tsunami, that's all. >=20 > Yes, systemd may be coming and may even become mandatory for=20 the Linux > kernel (given it's marriage with udev). when that comes, I'd rather g= o > *BSD or even Windows for that matter. The current plan is going=20 mdev, > following Walter Dnes fine example, when I can find the time=20 (perhaps > during xmas). byebye haters . Comunitiy doesn't need people like you. >=20 > > The emotions started running high when Lennart pushed=20 pulseaudio on us > > awhile ago, and he's doing it again now with systemd. I didn't see= =20 the > > purpose for pulse until I (finally) bought a new computer with=20 audio > > hardware I'd never seen before, and then I finally understood why=20= he > > invented this silly pulse nonsense. >=20 > I don't use pulseaudio and never will. Alsa is working fine, using > hardware mixer. I really don't understand why you would want to=20 use a > second layer on top of the hardware driver, I thought we gave that=20= up > years ago, abandoning the ESD and aRts. >=20 > > I still don't quite understand the entire motivation behind systemd= =20 but > > I'll bet it will become obvious to me in the future. >=20 > I'm sure... >=20 > > A speedy reboot is very nice for those of use who compile and test=20= a new > > kernel from Linus every morning and file kernel bug reports when > > appropriate. If I do find a kernel bug I may need to=20 recompile/reboot > > many times as quickly as my machine can do it, so saving 15-20=20 seconds > > per reboot cycle just feels less painful :) >=20 > Ok. For me, when booting, the most time spent is in the bios cycle. > Booting from grub takes maybe 5-10 seconds... Then find something to boost the BIOS. Yeah , UEFI goes out, and you=20= say: BIOS is fine with me , I don't need UEFI.=20 >=20 > > I didn't intend to preach, I intended to brag that I got it working= :p >=20 > Ok, I just read it as "preaching" but I guess you can see it that way= > too. I was just a bit tired I guess, sorry! conclude: =09You maybe paid by some Linux hate company to express like this. >=20 > Best regards >=20 > Peter K --=20 ______________=20 < gentoo rocks > --------------=20 \ ^__^ \ (oo)\_______ (__)\ )\/\ ||----w | || ||