From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1SWXBz-0002sU-Rn for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 21 May 2012 18:18:52 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6F12FE0D21; Mon, 21 May 2012 18:18:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-we0-f181.google.com (mail-we0-f181.google.com [74.125.82.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8223E0CA1 for ; Mon, 21 May 2012 18:16:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by werj55 with SMTP id j55so4064637wer.40 for ; Mon, 21 May 2012 11:16:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:user-agent:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:content-type; bh=XjnpzQ0ck9xjt1zLDKRGnKCXG9uRbg2t5t3jU8zO0WM=; b=vKRdhd9LZ+ozZ/dy9LluIMbUjDdgPRFfOuXYNpwAFiJMfUMyYZnnyqBd3TGgbwC+n4 utPi+7Texy1z5FL6CSQY+9hQYA69FAR0yDkZFzJ+1a3b0XtQ2dws6k6Z/0LlfDfgEvqh 9ciYdHS/vXf25PWElcktaicBoKkFjVoRMKyk435H7xWPNcRtCvOBg4tCVoVlAT8pSy2n ccETrQfDqdm+kXc5ioTF4CiW319U0XLLaFOwuj2ZTkYZMXLEM/b6dA0CujGTwheO+0Om oUhG+SEGIncZHXLp2rQKijR8dqZs2ysJxXkZbI/zcyH7n58FgNwalXU9DlN1ne/lNouT mbPw== Received: by 10.180.24.193 with SMTP id w1mr27717279wif.5.1337624161931; Mon, 21 May 2012 11:16:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from energy.localnet (p4FC60F7B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de. [79.198.15.123]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id gv4sm42310197wib.8.2012.05.21.11.15.59 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 21 May 2012 11:16:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Volker Armin Hemmann To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Cc: Mark Knecht Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] skype package changes I don't understand Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 20:15:57 +0200 Message-ID: <2590328.097jUjF3Rl@energy> User-Agent: KMail/4.8.3 (Linux/3.0.30; KDE/4.8.3; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: <4FBA77AA.6080307@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Archives-Salt: 73967cb8-fbeb-4a18-9474-40868833a63e X-Archives-Hash: 3c531fb661458dc8399eabd9bc0b76c1 Am Montag, 21. Mai 2012, 10:54:08 schrieb Mark Knecht: > On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 10:13 AM, Markos Chandras > wrote: > > >> if you use testing, you have to deal with such kind of situations. > >> Using a known broken version is just stupid. There isn't a choice > >> between those two. There is only a choice between: use unstable or > >> stable. And if you use unstable, don't complain about things being > >> fluid. > > Typical Volker. Not worth a response. > > > - From what I can tell, he is not using ~amd64 (testing). He uses a > > mixed system (stable with a few packages in package.keywords) which > > sometimes is even worse :) > > That's it precisely. All my systems are 'stable' as best they can be. > The only things that are more or less permanently testing are portage > & eix. After that the only entries in package.keywords are specific > applications or _very_ targeted things that address hardware issues. > (Virtualbox, VMWare Player, nvidia-drivers) That's it. In general, the > only reason ANYTHING goes in package.keywords is to address a > temporary package problem, and typically they aren't there that long. > For instance, if say Virtualbox had a problem I might keyword it for a > month or two to get a new release that fixes the problem. After that > version goes stable I remove the keyword entry and am running the same > version I've been running. My keyword file is currently only about 12 > lines. > > In the case of skype there was no stable version to use. Everything is > marked as testing. > > While I agree that the emulation libraries are probably low risk I > don't want to add 8 new things to package.keywords. It's just not the > way I work here. > > > The best way to deal with your problem (and avoid seeing your > > package.keywords getting bigger and bigger) is to grab -r1, mark it > > stable, put it in your local overlay and keep using that indefinitely. > > Yeah, most likely the best medium-term solution although what I've > done for now is emerge -C skype. > > > - -- > > Regards, > > Markos Chandras / Gentoo Linux Developer / Key ID: B4AFF2C2 > > Thanks Markos! I really appreciate your inputs as well as all the work > you guys do. We don't say thanks enough. > > (Ugh Volker. Keep the attitude to yourself dude) ;-( > which attitude? you are the one using a testing package - and then contemplates to use a KNOWN BAD version for no good reason at all. And then YOU call me out? Please... -- #163933