From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BAA561382C5 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2018 20:34:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7435EE0AE2; Fri, 2 Feb 2018 20:34:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smarthost03c.mail.zen.net.uk (smarthost03c.mail.zen.net.uk [212.23.1.22]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 00DD5E0AAB for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2018 20:34:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [82.69.80.10] (helo=peak.localnet) by smarthost03c.mail.zen.net.uk with esmtps (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA256:256) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ehi28-0001zc-SJ for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Fri, 02 Feb 2018 20:34:11 +0000 From: Peter Humphrey To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] A little help for non-native English speakers Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2018 20:34:04 +0000 Message-ID: <2571508.Q5tzAo4qA3@peak> In-Reply-To: <4a38407c-e224-d6e1-d848-b5d5f3ca5d52@spamtrap.tnetconsulting.net> References: <2979311.yKovLQH099@peak> <20180202080324.3629d419@digimed.co.uk> <4a38407c-e224-d6e1-d848-b5d5f3ca5d52@spamtrap.tnetconsulting.net> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Originating-smarthost03c-IP: [82.69.80.10] Feedback-ID: 82.69.80.10 X-Archives-Salt: b1342161-26c4-4287-81fd-410ba3f86238 X-Archives-Hash: 4ec7b7f5a8287201a86cab0b344cbdf1 On Friday, 2 February 2018 20:05:21 GMT Grant Taylor wrote: > On 02/02/2018 01:03 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > But its a bad habit which I will never get into! >=20 > Couldn't you have said "=E2=80=A6habit that I=E2=80=A6" in the fact that = you were > referencing a specific habit, not just a generic place holder? Nope. He said it's a bad habit. Then he said he'll never get into it. So=20 'which' was right; he was merely adding another thought, not limiting what= =20 he'd said before. It has nothing to do with place holders; it's about defining or not=20 defining. As Fowler made clear, though his later revisionists have watered= =20 him down. =2D-=20 Regards, Peter.