From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 83AC115800F for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2023 12:20:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 628D1E0895; Fri, 20 Jan 2023 12:20:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wm1-x334.google.com (mail-wm1-x334.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::334]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0BAE5E086A for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2023 12:20:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wm1-x334.google.com with SMTP id m15so3905954wms.4 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2023 04:20:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=references:in-reply-to:subject:to:message-id :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:date:from:from:to:cc:subject :date:message-id:reply-to; bh=nz5Jz+DMVB1OArIJaOeCDXj76dXXhJ0FSrVP8YHG/T4=; b=pql7yHLy4T1rKZpVZNk4Kk7pJLEnJ9r2LhSC6yLo9AIwNDy6ouWGjQU2Jg+AVfTRE0 Whri3OoufsHwfVb0hRVLceLnNLlbyup08lMYRufjJDo2BmR35Idc4graHhFdKBgCstu0 ue9FViPfREhBjU/VeGaHRhglGu/SqKYC/3/hTvtoQmoMSeZRarW6xJimwgO4xg502dYj XFJd4rM9FV2AygaHpVzf+6Zw26x4x9UjJ4pAT0cio5cRduTWzvT3PegjERDiU7ULb8qS g3bHhtoSQZq+iYNmfaJnepr7mSYyDd3RtdoF+p2PAwvh0nGvOg9DdPL+c9R0bhliGgCK Qevg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=references:in-reply-to:subject:to:message-id :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:date:from:x-gm-message-state :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=nz5Jz+DMVB1OArIJaOeCDXj76dXXhJ0FSrVP8YHG/T4=; b=6xPRycN2wDmuNjCyqDUJETpKwlkEBzLmYV1UVYPkU1Tye6U1o839pSQlIA5FmWteEw sa76P/567r95zhcixtuRrUR/ZOArOqmHiMrEeYQANRiFErsAZ4XP4GgHRK3NaTzJpqui S/s+3fwKpYis7tCdZ2VrHRff41q4971FOxEa3G8s4Yp2SyeyllqH5Xhac48Ui91O3uKr oP0NfrdLM/oYdvIxVj1Ear2ISzZcQTtjjYx9S8NAlW5m+Ru1eGLjDzmKcZcKgtI4ZfHo ELKHbUeBCS7sRbKVNfytkCH67Nw0tOJDTyNLebu6ywLl9kn2Khcimw+HczS9DLRmrzEF shlA== X-Gm-Message-State: AFqh2kpWqwXJVAtjYrke/+we0S2m2S8gHNmcHjww07Qqe8Ff6G8gp9mH adeGvfB2Su4SsECOFwsBH6FOTTLklgc= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AMrXdXtLxagxT+rz3h5KKPxXn2aJetrSwEok7IG5HT+46cMddiXh+KqV2lFv2kg8yyVXLciHV/ONxA== X-Received: by 2002:a05:600c:3b82:b0:3d2:392b:3165 with SMTP id n2-20020a05600c3b8200b003d2392b3165mr14116041wms.12.1674217248678; Fri, 20 Jan 2023 04:20:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from gmail.com (p200300df0743a42d80d39059cd4929e7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de. [2003:df:743:a42d:80d3:9059:cd49:29e7]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id bg1-20020a05600c3c8100b003db09eaddb5sm10138277wmb.3.2023.01.20.04.20.47 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Fri, 20 Jan 2023 04:20:48 -0800 (PST) From: Dr Rainer Woitok X-Google-Original-From: Dr Rainer Woitok Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2023 13:20:47 +0100 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <25546.34590.589618.828225@woitok.gmail.com> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org, Grant Taylor Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Bouncing messages In-Reply-To: Msg <3bddb17c-6154-6551-a3e6-68b9f65180b2@spamtrap.tnetconsulting.net> of 2023-01-19 22:59:48 -0700 from gtaylor@gentoo.tnetconsulting.net References: <5641245.DvuYhMxLoT@wstn> <12150915.O9o76ZdvQC@wstn> <2683368.mvXUDI8C0e@wstn> <3801a02c-2b8a-eb9f-918f-b4f352508db5@users.sourceforge.net> <20230118150714.362d7481@digimed.co.uk> <3bddb17c-6154-6551-a3e6-68b9f65180b2@spamtrap.tnetconsulting.net> X-Mailer: VM 8.2.0b under 28.2 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-Archives-Salt: a9b16515-c57e-4d52-854a-2d31607efbec X-Archives-Hash: 997056822120c856bc6bc4fef97dee03 Grant, On Thursday, 2023-01-19 22:59:48 -0700, you wrote: > ... > I tried it a few times. > > I'd see mail log entries where the re-sent messages would fail the same > way that the original sent message failed. :-/ Me too :-( But isn't this changeable? It's a list maintained by Gentoo.Org, after all. Gentoo is famous for its customizability, but the organization of its mailing lists is not adaptable to new requirements? Does this mail- ing software run under Windows? Either these mail identification numbers should be somehow visible and in particular searchable at https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-user/ or the mail that some mail couldn't be delivered should contain more in- formation like author, date and subject. DOES REALLY NOBODY CARE? Sincerely, Rainer