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From: Jens Reinemuth <jens@reinemuth.info>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: has anyone tried KDE5?
Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2014 08:48:01 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2527327.PBtT4YT7Z0@jens-buntu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201410062248.03152.michaelkintzios@gmail.com>


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Am Montag, 6. Oktober 2014, 22:47:51 schrieb Mick:
> On Monday 06 Oct 2014 16:44:57 Jens Reinemuth wrote:
> > 
> > And to go deeper: Why don't they store documents in a database, that is
> > better optimized for documents... MongoDB? CouchDB? Instead they use this
> > shitty mixture of MySQL and Virtuoso!? WTF?
> 
> 
> No, no, no!  What they should do is use Microsoft's Sharepoint server 
> solution, which stores documents in the MS SQL as binary blobs ... millions of 
> corporate users can't be wrong!  O_o
> 

Great idea... ;-) I really can't understand why anyone would use a database as file-storage!? 

But to be real: Why not use anything for akonadi/nepomuk that ist really optimized for the purpose... Why not Solr or Elasticsearch... I mean: Nobody really ever uses that crap for anything else than doing fulltext-search! As far as i remember, even that purpose wasn't really very well done! Elasticsearch with some indexers that push a plaintextversion of nearly every document-format into the index and you will enjoy searches in millions of documents in nearly "no time"... Using some tags and categories, you will have the perfect semantic experience! 




jens reinemuth 
leonhard-eckel-siedlung 4a
d-67483 edesheim
mobil:  +49.176.63613420
mail:   jens@reinemuth.info
jabber: jens@jabber.reinemuth.info
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scribline, n.:
	The blank area on the back of credit cards where one's signature goes.
		-- "Sniglets", Rich Hall & Friends


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<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;">Am Montag, 6. Oktober 2014, 22:47:51 schrieb Mick:</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; On Monday 06 Oct 2014 16:44:57 Jens Reinemuth wrote:</p>
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<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; And to go deeper: Why don't they store documents in a database, that is</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; better optimized for documents... MongoDB? CouchDB? Instead they use this</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; shitty mixture of MySQL and Virtuoso!? WTF?</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; </p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; </p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; No, no, no!  What they should do is use Microsoft's Sharepoint server </p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; solution, which stores documents in the MS SQL as binary blobs ... millions of </p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; corporate users can't be wrong!  O_o</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; </p>
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<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;">Great idea... ;-) I really can't understand why anyone would use a database as file-storage!? </p>
<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; ">&nbsp;</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;">But to be real: Why not use anything for akonadi/nepomuk that ist really optimized for the purpose... Why not Solr or Elasticsearch... I mean: Nobody really ever uses that crap for anything else than doing fulltext-search! As far as i remember, even that purpose wasn't really very well done! Elasticsearch with some indexers that push a plaintextversion of nearly every document-format into the index and you will enjoy searches in millions of documents in nearly &quot;no time&quot;... Using some tags and categories, you will have the perfect semantic experience! </p>
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<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;"><br />-- </p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">jens reinemuth </p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;">leonhard-eckel-siedlung 4a</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;">d-67483 edesheim</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;">mobil:  +49.176.63613420</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;">mail:   jens@reinemuth.info</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;">jabber: jens@jabber.reinemuth.info</p>
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<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;">scribline, n.:</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;">	The blank area on the back of credit cards where one's signature goes.</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;">		-- &quot;Sniglets&quot;, Rich Hall &amp; Friends</p>
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Am Montag, 6. Oktober 2014, 22:47:51 schrieb Mick:
> On Monday 06 Oct 2014 16:44:57 Jens Reinemuth wrote:
> > 
> > And to go deeper: Why don't they store documents in a database, that is
> > better optimized for documents... MongoDB? CouchDB? Instead they use this
> > shitty mixture of MySQL and Virtuoso!? WTF?
> 
> 
> No, no, no!  What they should do is use Microsoft's Sharepoint server 
> solution, which stores documents in the MS SQL as binary blobs ... millions of 
> corporate users can't be wrong!  O_o
> 

Great idea... ;-) I really can't understand why anyone would use a database as file-storage!? 

But to be real: Why not use anything for akonadi/nepomuk that ist really optimized for the purpose... Why not Solr or Elasticsearch... I mean: Nobody really ever uses that crap for anything else than doing fulltext-search! As far as i remember, even that purpose wasn't really very well done! Elasticsearch with some indexers that push a plaintextversion of nearly every document-format into the index and you will enjoy searches in millions of documents in nearly "no time"... Using some tags and categories, you will have the perfect semantic experience! 




jens reinemuth 
leonhard-eckel-siedlung 4a
d-67483 edesheim
mobil:  +49.176.63613420
mail:   jens@reinemuth.info
jabber: jens@jabber.reinemuth.info
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scribline, n.:
	The blank area on the back of credit cards where one's signature goes.
		-- "Sniglets", Rich Hall & Friends


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-10-07  6:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-10-04 13:26 [gentoo-user] has anyone tried KDE5? behrouz khosravi
2014-10-04 17:37 ` [gentoo-user] " Michael Palimaka
2014-10-05 13:17   ` Tanstaafl
2014-10-05 15:01     ` Michael Palimaka
2014-10-05 15:35       ` Tanstaafl
2014-10-05 15:50         ` Michael Palimaka
2014-10-05 16:27           ` Alan McKinnon
2014-10-05 16:59             ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2014-10-05 17:10               ` Alan McKinnon
2014-10-05 17:25                 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2014-10-07  7:24                 ` [gentoo-user] " Pavel Volkov
2014-10-07 14:48                   ` Philip Webb
2014-10-07 15:20                     ` Mick
2014-10-07 17:27                       ` Philip Webb
2014-10-07 18:26                       ` J. Roeleveld
2014-10-07 19:20                         ` Daniel Frey
2014-10-08  4:42                           ` J. Roeleveld
2014-10-09  3:32                             ` Daniel Frey
2014-10-14  5:50                               ` J. Roeleveld
2014-10-14 19:22                                 ` Daniel Frey
2014-10-14 20:16                                   ` Alan McKinnon
2014-10-16 17:06                                     ` Daniel Frey
2014-10-07 20:18                         ` Neil Bothwick
2014-10-07 21:32                           ` Mick
2014-10-08  6:45                             ` Pavel Volkov
2014-10-08  7:32                               ` J. Roeleveld
2014-10-08  8:11                               ` Neil Bothwick
2014-10-08  4:46                           ` J. Roeleveld
2014-10-08  5:29                             ` Mick
2014-10-08  7:30                               ` J. Roeleveld
2014-10-09 17:44                       ` Francisco Ares
2014-10-09 19:38                         ` Alan McKinnon
2014-10-09 20:01                           ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2014-10-11  9:45                             ` Mick
2014-10-06 15:44               ` [gentoo-user] " Jens Reinemuth
2014-10-06 21:47                 ` Mick
2014-10-07  5:02                   ` J. Roeleveld
2014-10-07  6:48                   ` Jens Reinemuth [this message]
2014-10-05 18:34   ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2014-10-06  9:57     ` Michael Palimaka
2014-10-06 15:55       ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2014-10-07 20:31       ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2014-10-08  9:56         ` Michael Palimaka
2014-10-08 17:38           ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2014-10-09  7:56             ` Michael Palimaka
2014-10-09 15:40               ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2014-10-07  7:41   ` [gentoo-user] " Pavel Volkov
2014-10-07  9:21     ` [gentoo-user] " Michael Palimaka
2014-10-12 12:11   ` Stefano Crocco
2014-10-12 15:20     ` Michael Palimaka
2014-10-12 18:45       ` Stefano Crocco
2014-10-05 12:19 ` [gentoo-user] " Paige Thompson
2014-10-05 12:20 ` Paige Thompson

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