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[2003:df:70a:35e0:1439:c8e3:35ef:12a0]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id g198sm6934540wme.0.2021.08.04.03.52.56 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 04 Aug 2021 03:52:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Dr Rainer Woitok X-Google-Original-From: Dr Rainer Woitok Received: by tux (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 04 Aug 2021 12:52:54 +0200 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <24842.29062.531607.648203@tux.local> Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2021 12:52:54 +0200 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org, Neil Bothwick , "Alec Ten Harmsel" Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: --depclean wants to remove openrc. Yikes! In-Reply-To: Msg <20210803134429.53aa5475@digimed.co.uk> of 2021-08-03 13:44:29 +0100 from neil@digimed.co.uk References: <20210725100344.34490089@digimed.co.uk> <60FD5869.2050406@youngman.org.uk> <24831.53669.190993.493758@tux.local> <24839.49752.555814.917077@tux.local> <24839.62491.160236.5924@tux.local> <1c7ed4be-87fd-48f9-b4d5-3c3aac279d5e@www.fastmail.com> <20210803134429.53aa5475@digimed.co.uk> X-Mailer: VM 8.0.12-devo-585 under 21.5 (beta34) "kale" XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-pc-linux) X-Archives-Salt: 5ddd6f58-94eb-4027-8d33-f0fcd4af0610 X-Archives-Hash: 9c06c63924e684db255141e77e197b5a Alec, Neil, On Tuesday, 2021-08-03 13:44:29 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 03 Aug 2021 07:45:27 -0400, Alec Ten Harmsel wrote: > > > > $ emerge --ask --depclean | less > > > ... > > Depending what desktop environment/terminal emulator, there are a few > > options. You could use a terminal like gnome-terminal, konsole, etc. > > which have scroll so you can run `emerge -ca' and scroll to view the > > results. I run urxvt in i3 (not sure whether it scrolls or not), and I > > always run emerge inside of a tmux and use tmux's scroll to view all > > the output before making a decision, so you could also use tmux or > > screen. I also use "urxvt" with a scrollbar and a buffer size of 3000 lines. But neither is this guaranteed to be enough, nor does it help when work- ing directly from a console (except perhaps when your kernel has Alan's scrolling patch applied). > > Or you could use a different pager, most does not exhibit this behaviour. > There is probably a less setting to change this too. Well, I tested this using "most" from within a "urxvt" terminal, and at least with default options it did not work for me. No output was dis- played at all and even "^C" did not work. I had to explicitly kill the "emerge" process from another terminal window, and only then received the output from "most". :-( I also tried good ol' "more" and "pg", but even though they both accept- ed "^C" they somehow interfered with the question "emerge" should final- ly be asking. I did not yet test all these pagers directly from a cons- ole, because I'd prefer a universal solution for this problem. And come to think of it, I'd prefer a solution with "more" or "pg" because where- as "less" and "most" each are provided by packages of their own, the former two are both provided by package "sys-apps/util-linux" which is even installed on my live USB stick, if I remember correctly. Sincerely, Rainer