* [gentoo-user] What groups should user "root" be in? @ 2021-05-19 8:25 Dr Rainer Woitok 2021-05-19 8:38 ` Dale 2021-05-19 23:14 ` aisha 0 siblings, 2 replies; 5+ messages in thread From: Dr Rainer Woitok @ 2021-05-19 8:25 UTC (permalink / raw To: Gentoo-User Greetings, still hunting down the reasons for my laptop not producing any sound, I have meanwhile found reports on the web "no sound even though root is in group audio" or "Dbus doesn't "care" who root is -- it checks the ident- ity of the account that requested an action, and if that account isn't allowed to perform that action, the request is denied" [1]. I can't remember ever having manually added user "root" to any groups since I installed Gentoo on my laptop (as opposed to adding my own user- id to quite some groups)m and these are the few groups "root" is into: $ id root uid=0(root) gid=0(root) groups=0(root),1(bin),2(daemon),3(sys),4(adm),6(disk),10(wheel),11(floppy),26(tape),27(video) $ Should there be more? In particular, should "root" be in group "audio"? Sincerely, Rainer [1] https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=3640443#post3640443 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-user] What groups should user "root" be in? 2021-05-19 8:25 [gentoo-user] What groups should user "root" be in? Dr Rainer Woitok @ 2021-05-19 8:38 ` Dale 2021-05-19 23:14 ` aisha 1 sibling, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread From: Dale @ 2021-05-19 8:38 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-user Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > Greetings, > > still hunting down the reasons for my laptop not producing any sound, I > have meanwhile found reports on the web "no sound even though root is in > group audio" or "Dbus doesn't "care" who root is -- it checks the ident- > ity of the account that requested an action, and if that account isn't > allowed to perform that action, the request is denied" [1]. > > I can't remember ever having manually added user "root" to any groups > since I installed Gentoo on my laptop (as opposed to adding my own user- > id to quite some groups)m and these are the few groups "root" is into: > > $ id root > uid=0(root) gid=0(root) groups=0(root),1(bin),2(daemon),3(sys),4(adm),6(disk),10(wheel),11(floppy),26(tape),27(video) > $ > > Should there be more? In particular, should "root" be in group "audio"? > > Sincerely, > Rainer > > [1] https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=3640443#post3640443 > > If it helps, this is what I have: root@fireball / # cat /etc/group | grep root root::0:root bin::1:root,bin,daemon daemon::2:root,bin,daemon sys::3:root,bin,adm adm::4:root,adm,daemon disk::6:root,adm wheel::10:root,dale2,dale floppy::11:root,dale dialout::20:root,dale,dale2 tape::26:root video::27:root,dale,dale2,sddm root@fireball / # Looking at the whole file, not everything mentions root, most don't actually. Dale :-) :-) ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-user] What groups should user "root" be in? 2021-05-19 8:25 [gentoo-user] What groups should user "root" be in? Dr Rainer Woitok 2021-05-19 8:38 ` Dale @ 2021-05-19 23:14 ` aisha 2021-05-20 9:42 ` Dr Rainer Woitok 1 sibling, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread From: aisha @ 2021-05-19 23:14 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-user On 21/05/19 10:25AM, Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > Greetings, > > still hunting down the reasons for my laptop not producing any sound, I > have meanwhile found reports on the web "no sound even though root is in > group audio" or "Dbus doesn't "care" who root is -- it checks the ident- > ity of the account that requested an action, and if that account isn't > allowed to perform that action, the request is denied" [1]. > > I can't remember ever having manually added user "root" to any groups > since I installed Gentoo on my laptop (as opposed to adding my own user- > id to quite some groups)m and these are the few groups "root" is into: > > $ id root > uid=0(root) gid=0(root) groups=0(root),1(bin),2(daemon),3(sys),4(adm),6(disk),10(wheel),11(floppy),26(tape),27(video) > $ > > Should there be more? In particular, should "root" be in group "audio"? > Are you running your machine day-to-day as root? That sounds like a recipe for disaster... That preaching aside, I do have audio working as a normal user and my groups are - $ groups aisha wheel video portage lxc lxd aisha $ groups root root bin daemon sys adm disk wheel floppy tape video lxc lxd Fwiw, I only added lxc/lxd to root manually (I think, it's an old machine). Hope this helps, ymmv. Cheers > Sincerely, > Rainer > > [1] https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=3640443#post3640443 > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-user] What groups should user "root" be in? 2021-05-19 23:14 ` aisha @ 2021-05-20 9:42 ` Dr Rainer Woitok 2021-05-20 10:34 ` Hund 0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread From: Dr Rainer Woitok @ 2021-05-20 9:42 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-user, aisha Aisha, On Wednesday, 2021-05-19 19:14:27 -0400, you wrote: > ... > Are you running your machine day-to-day as root? > That sounds like a recipe for disaster... Of course not. But if that quote [1] had any substance in it, it COULD happen that some deamon running as user "root" failed because of "root" not being in the correct groups. > That preaching aside, I do have audio working as a normal user and my groups are - > > $ groups aisha > wheel video portage lxc lxd aisha > $ groups root > root bin daemon sys adm disk wheel floppy tape video lxc lxd So neither your own id nor "root" is a member of group "audio" and audio is working nevertheless. Hum, that just triggers the next question to all Gentooers: What the heck is group "audio" good for? > ... > > [1] https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=3640443#post3640443 Sincerely, Rainer ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-user] What groups should user "root" be in? 2021-05-20 9:42 ` Dr Rainer Woitok @ 2021-05-20 10:34 ` Hund 0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread From: Hund @ 2021-05-20 10:34 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-user On May 20, 2021 11:42:23 AM GMT+02:00, Dr Rainer Woitok <rainer.woitok@gmail.com> wrote: >Aisha, > >On Wednesday, 2021-05-19 19:14:27 -0400, you wrote: > >> ... >> Are you running your machine day-to-day as root? >> That sounds like a recipe for disaster... > >Of course not. But if that quote [1] had any substance in it, it COULD >happen that some deamon running as user "root" failed because of "root" >not being in the correct groups. > >> That preaching aside, I do have audio working as a normal user and my groups are - >> >> $ groups aisha >> wheel video portage lxc lxd aisha >> $ groups root >> root bin daemon sys adm disk wheel floppy tape video lxc lxd > >So neither your own id nor "root" is a member of group "audio" and audio >is working nevertheless. Hum, that just triggers the next question to >all Gentooers: What the heck is group "audio" good for? > >> ... >> > [1] https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=3640443#post3640443 > >Sincerely, > Rainer > Here's a good explanation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/TheAudioGroup -- Hund ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
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