From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1S8T4E-000855-Qk for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 09:03:23 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9905CE085C for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 09:03:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtpq1.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq1.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.42.164]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF731E0857 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 06:13:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [212.54.42.138] (helo=smtp7.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq1.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S8QQC-0002zN-4l for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 07:13:52 +0100 Received: from 5ed027d6.cm-7-1a.dynamic.ziggo.nl ([94.208.39.214] helo=data.antarean.org) by smtp7.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S8QQ9-0005WH-QC for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 07:13:52 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by data.antarean.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B3442A06 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 07:14:35 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at antarean.org Received: from data.antarean.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (data.antarean.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LUMwGrc2kWEP for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 07:14:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from eve.localnet (eve.lan.antarean.org [10.20.13.23]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by data.antarean.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AA60A19E7 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 07:14:33 +0100 (CET) From: Joost Roeleveld To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 5 - failure :-( Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 07:13:46 +0100 Message-ID: <2447631.Yi3LRrrIq7@eve> User-Agent: KMail/4.7.4 (Linux/3.2.1-gentoo-r2; KDE/4.7.4; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: <20120312092432.GA2959@acm.acm> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Ziggo-spambar: / X-Ziggo-spamscore: -0.9 X-Ziggo-spamreport: BAYES_00=-1.9,KHOP_DYNAMIC=0.001,RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.982,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01 X-Ziggo-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Flag: No X-Archives-Salt: e7e30150-963f-4c6f-b87b-94f964063d7b X-Archives-Hash: 7f34c6605afafc3052eb6eabefc7efa2 On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 10:59:30 PM Pandu Poluan wrote: > On Mar 14, 2012 10:30 PM, "Michael Mol" wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Tanstaafl > wrote: > > > Or asked another way - > > > > > > Why is LVM2 incapable od using mdev? > > Alan has explained that LVM2 actually is able to run under mdev, and he's > investigating if there's any LVM2 feature that is not available. > > So far, there's none, and I'm strongly suspicious that it's a case of > missing dev symlinks that prevented LVM2 to work; something later on the > "default" runlevel then created the proper dev entries that allow LVM2 to > work. > > If that is the case -- which I strongly suspect -- then one can use mdev's > built-in ability to rename/move a device + create a symlink [1] > > [1] > https://svn.mcs.anl.gov/repos/ZeptoOS/trunk/BGP/packages/busybox/src/docs/md > ev.txt I don't have the time to test this yet, but I am definitely planning on trying mdev. Especially because I don't like the direction udev is going. Auto-creation of /dev entries. Yes, very usefull Renaming devices according to some simple rules. Yes, very usefull. Auto-starting programs when a device is added. Great, when are we getting "autostart" support for CDs and USB-keys and under which user-account will these be executed? This system is mostly used by me, but my wife also uses it sometimes. Even when I leave a desktop-session active. She simply starts a second one. If this is implemented, will the autostart-script run under my account, my wifes, or *shudder* as root? Walt, keep up the good work. I need LVM to work on the server, once we have confirmed it does work and how to configure mdev to work with it, I'll start to switch my servers. > > The presumption is that lvm's dependent binaries would be found > > somewhere under a mount point other than / (such as /usr), which gives > > you a chicken-and-egg problem if mounting that mount point requires > > lvm. > > Uh... mounting filesystems is not the purview of {u,m}dev... ...yet.... ;) That is, untill someone comes up with the "clever" idea of shoving an automounter into udev. (Will it then also auto-unmount when I want my CD back?) -- Joost