Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory?

[Marc Joliet <marcec@gmx.de>]

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Am Mittwoch, 13. Dezember 2017, 12:04:03 CET schrieb Neil Bothwick:
> On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 10:06:29 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > Some historical correctnesses about Canek:
> > 
> > - He has been here for years
> > - He has contributed here for years
> > - He supports systemd and has offered more help and explanation about
> > systemd to it's users on this list than any other single person, bar
> > none
> > - He has never, not once, slagged off SysV Init, OpenRC or any other
> > init system, ot the creators or the users
> > - He has never posted rude or inflamatory comments about anyone arguing
> > against him
> > - He has never resorted to ad-hominem and never posted any knee jerk
> > opinions about any other poster wrt their stance on init systems
> > 
> > If we look at the reverse we see a very different picture, and it's
> > right here in this very thread. To the poster who rudely commented about
> > Canek being a professor and that doesn't make him right and that he is
> > one voice, step back pal and take a very long hard look at what you
> > said. Yes, it doesn't make him right. Also doesn't make him wrong. His
> > posts and the content are what make him right or wrong. There truly are
> > fan bois on this list, but Canek is not one of them. It's the
> > systemd-haters and Poeterring-haters who are being fan bois, painting
> > all detractors with the same brush.
> 
> +1
> 
> It was Canek's rational explanations about systemd that made me
> interested enough to try it, and I'm glad I did. He made good technical
> arguments in favour of it whereas most of the arguments against it are
> either based on Lennartphobia or false fact gained from other systemd
> haters.

+1 to both Alan and Neil.

> I also see the position as somewhat different with Gentoo, because openrc
> is so much better than the other "traditional" systems out there, in fact
> it shares some of the benefits of systemd. As a result, I run a mixture
> of both systems. I prefer systemd now, but not enough to go through the
> hassle of switching over an already working system. That wouldn't be the
> case if those other systems weren't running openrc.

That echoes my own sentiment pretty well.  OpenRC is one reason I stayed with 
Gentoo, because it seemed better to me than the way other distros did things 
(well, better than Suse, at least, which was the other distro I tried way back 
then).

However, now I default to systemd, because for me it's even better than 
OpenRC.  Plus, I don't have so many systems that I couldn't migrate them all 
:-) .

-- 
Marc Joliet
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"People who think they know everything really annoy those of us who know we
don't" - Bjarne Stroustrup

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