[gentoo-user] I'm trying to emerge polkit, now it wants to bring in all of KDE

[gentoo-user] I'm trying to emerge polkit, now it wants to bring in all of KDE

[Andrew Lowe]

Hi all,
	Just what is happening with ebuilds today? At work, I'm in the process
of setting up a workstation using the KDE profile. I've gone to the KDE
install doco on the wiki, http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/KDE, had a read
and it says that I'll need D-Bus, polkit, udev and udisks. I can emerge
D-Bus with no problems then onto polkit which its wiki says needs D-Bus
and consolekit.

	So I attempt to install consolekit and bingo, there's the avalanche.
Perl crap everywhere, Samba, MySQL & MariaDB, and I don't even use
either of these DB's, a battle between LibAV and FFMPEG, what looks like
all of KDE and oh look, there's vlc along for the ride. Even zlib
decides it wants to come along but manages to block itself. That many
files want to come along to the party that I can't "Shift PgUp" back up
through my text console to see it all - a text console because I don't
have any graphics installed yet.

	I had a look at the consolekit ebuild and it says that it needs polkit,
even though the wiki says that polkit depends upon consolekit - going
round in circles here. So I looked at the polkit ebuild and it looks
like it needs polkit-kde-agent, which to my untrained eye, probably is
responsible for this avalanche os stuff - I think....

	So what do I have to do to not have this avalanche of stuff, so that I
can emerge pieces bit by bit, so that I can see what's happening. I've
probably got some of the above slightly wrong, "lost in translation"
going from work to home, but "the vibe" is there. It is so frustrating
when you sit there and see a massive list of packages, a good proportion
I don't even want, I'm looking at you MySQL/MariaDB - isn't this due to
the Akonadi mess, scroll up the screen and it makes no sense as to why
things are being brought in.

	There, I've vented my spleen, any thoughts on how to control this
"beast" would be greatly appreciated.

	Regards,
		Andrew

Re: [gentoo-user] I'm trying to emerge polkit, now it wants to bring in all of KDE

[Alexander Kapshuk]

On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 8:18 PM, Andrew Lowe <agl@wht.com.au> wrote:
> Hi all,
>         Just what is happening with ebuilds today? At work, I'm in the process
> of setting up a workstation using the KDE profile. I've gone to the KDE
> install doco on the wiki, http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/KDE, had a read
> and it says that I'll need D-Bus, polkit, udev and udisks. I can emerge
> D-Bus with no problems then onto polkit which its wiki says needs D-Bus
> and consolekit.
>
>         So I attempt to install consolekit and bingo, there's the avalanche.
> Perl crap everywhere, Samba, MySQL & MariaDB, and I don't even use
> either of these DB's, a battle between LibAV and FFMPEG, what looks like
> all of KDE and oh look, there's vlc along for the ride. Even zlib
> decides it wants to come along but manages to block itself. That many
> files want to come along to the party that I can't "Shift PgUp" back up
> through my text console to see it all - a text console because I don't
> have any graphics installed yet.
>
>         I had a look at the consolekit ebuild and it says that it needs polkit,
> even though the wiki says that polkit depends upon consolekit - going
> round in circles here. So I looked at the polkit ebuild and it looks
> like it needs polkit-kde-agent, which to my untrained eye, probably is
> responsible for this avalanche os stuff - I think....
>
>         So what do I have to do to not have this avalanche of stuff, so that I
> can emerge pieces bit by bit, so that I can see what's happening. I've
> probably got some of the above slightly wrong, "lost in translation"
> going from work to home, but "the vibe" is there. It is so frustrating
> when you sit there and see a massive list of packages, a good proportion
> I don't even want, I'm looking at you MySQL/MariaDB - isn't this due to
> the Akonadi mess, scroll up the screen and it makes no sense as to why
> things are being brought in.
>
>         There, I've vented my spleen, any thoughts on how to control this
> "beast" would be greatly appreciated.
>
>         Regards,
>                 Andrew
>

Can you post the output of the command lines shown below:
(1). eselect profile list
(2). emerge --info|grep USE
(3). cat /etc/portage/package.accept_keywords
(4). cat /etc/portage/package.use

Is this a brand new setup you're working on, or are you just switching profiles?

Re: [gentoo-user] I'm trying to emerge polkit, now it wants to bring in all of KDE

[Mick]

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On Monday 29 Sep 2014 18:18:06 Andrew Lowe wrote:
> Hi all,
> 	Just what is happening with ebuilds today? At work, I'm in the process
> of setting up a workstation using the KDE profile. I've gone to the KDE
> install doco on the wiki, http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/KDE, had a read
> and it says that I'll need D-Bus, polkit, udev and udisks. I can emerge
> D-Bus with no problems then onto polkit which its wiki says needs D-Bus
> and consolekit.
> 
> 	So I attempt to install consolekit and bingo, there's the avalanche.
> Perl crap everywhere, Samba, MySQL & MariaDB, and I don't even use
> either of these DB's, a battle between LibAV and FFMPEG, what looks like
> all of KDE and oh look, there's vlc along for the ride. Even zlib
> decides it wants to come along but manages to block itself. That many
> files want to come along to the party that I can't "Shift PgUp" back up
> through my text console to see it all - a text console because I don't
> have any graphics installed yet.
> 
> 	I had a look at the consolekit ebuild and it says that it needs polkit,
> even though the wiki says that polkit depends upon consolekit - going
> round in circles here. So I looked at the polkit ebuild and it looks
> like it needs polkit-kde-agent, which to my untrained eye, probably is
> responsible for this avalanche os stuff - I think....
> 
> 	So what do I have to do to not have this avalanche of stuff, so that I
> can emerge pieces bit by bit, so that I can see what's happening. I've
> probably got some of the above slightly wrong, "lost in translation"
> going from work to home, but "the vibe" is there. It is so frustrating
> when you sit there and see a massive list of packages, a good proportion
> I don't even want, I'm looking at you MySQL/MariaDB - isn't this due to
> the Akonadi mess, scroll up the screen and it makes no sense as to why
> things are being brought in.
> 
> 	There, I've vented my spleen, any thoughts on how to control this
> "beast" would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> 	Regards,
> 		Andrew

I wouldn't try to install dbus, polkit and the like manually.  These are all 
dependencies of KDE.  Emerge the KDE apps or meta packages you want and let 
portage take care of dependencies.
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Regards,
Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] I'm trying to emerge polkit, now it wants to bring in all of KDE

[Stroller]

On Mon, 29 September 2014, at 6:18 pm, Andrew Lowe <agl@wht.com.au> wrote:

> …  That many
> files want to come along to the party that I can't "Shift PgUp" back up
> through my text console to see it all - a text console because I don't
> have any graphics installed yet.

emerge tmux

Stroller.

Re: [gentoo-user] I'm trying to emerge polkit, now it wants to bring in all of KDE

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 01:18:06 +0800, Andrew Lowe wrote:

> 	Just what is happening with ebuilds today? At work, I'm in the
> process of setting up a workstation using the KDE profile. I've gone to
> the KDE install doco on the wiki, http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/KDE, had
> a read and it says that I'll need D-Bus, polkit, udev and udisks. I can
> emerge D-Bus with no problems then onto polkit which its wiki says
> needs D-Bus and consolekit.
> 
> 	So I attempt to install consolekit and bingo, there's the
> avalanche. Perl crap everywhere, Samba, MySQL & MariaDB, and I don't
> even use either of these DB's, a battle between LibAV and FFMPEG, what
> looks like all of KDE and oh look, there's vlc along for the ride. Even
> zlib decides it wants to come along but manages to block itself. That
> many files want to come along to the party that I can't "Shift PgUp"
> back up through my text console to see it all - a text console because
> I don't have any graphics installed yet.

You are using the KDE profile, so you should expect programs emerged
with the kde USE flag to depend on elements of KDE. As others have said,
just emerge the KDE programs or meta-packages you want and let portage
handle everything else.

Alternatively, switch to a standard desktop profile, get X working, then
switch profiles and emerge your KDE packages.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

The Computer is the logical advancement of humankind:
intelligence without morality.

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Re: [gentoo-user] I'm trying to emerge polkit, now it wants to bring in all of KDE

[Peter Humphrey]

On Monday 29 September 2014 20:23:49 Neil Bothwick wrote:

> Alternatively, switch to a standard desktop profile, get X working, then
> switch profiles and emerge your KDE packages.

Or, even, don't switch profiles. I have this:

$ eselect profile list
Available profile symlink targets:
  [1]   default/linux/amd64/13.0 *
  [2]   default/linux/amd64/13.0/selinux
  [3]   default/linux/amd64/13.0/desktop
  [4]   default/linux/amd64/13.0/desktop/gnome
  [5]   default/linux/amd64/13.0/desktop/gnome/systemd
  [6]   default/linux/amd64/13.0/desktop/kde
  [7]   default/linux/amd64/13.0/desktop/kde/systemd
[...]

I don't use the kde profile because it pulls in a lot of stuff I don't need. 
Also, this way I kid myself I know more about how my system is put together, 
as I have quite a few entries in package.use.  :)

-- 
Regards
Peter