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From: Michael Schmarck <michael.schmarck@habmalnefrage.de>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-user]  Re: Re: Re: Re: Is GWN dead?
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 13:24:51 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2353105.D0KmHJaz1F@michael-schmarck.my-fqdn.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 20080113193817.31ab9702@loonquawl.digimed.co.uk

Neil Bothwick <neil@digimed.co.uk> wrote:

> On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 20:24:52 +0100, Michael Schmarck wrote:
> 
>> > Because a first-time installer benefits from the confidence given by
>> > using an official install disc.
>> 
>> I don't understand that. What confidence? To install Gentoo,
>> you need a way to partition your storage, create filesystems
>> and chroot. That can easily be done by any live CD.
> 
> Assuming you know what you are doing.

Of course. And if you don't, then you should get some clue (maybe
by reading the wonderful documentation).

But if you still don't know what you're doing, then the Install
CD would also be of no help at all for you.

> If you've ever tried to help a 
> number of less confident users through it, you'd know what I mean.

And why should there be a difference, if they start from a GRML
CD compared to a Gentoo CD?

> While I don't disagree that a Gentoo live CD is absolutely necessary, you
> seem to be taking the argument further, saying that Gentoo should not
> have its own live CD. Why?

Because it's unnecessary. It adds stuff to the "Gentoo Environment"
which needs to be supported. And it barely adds anything useful

Michael

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-01-14 12:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 165+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-11  8:27 [gentoo-user] Is GWN dead? Shaochun Wang
2008-01-11  8:37 ` Daniel Pielmeier
2008-01-11  8:58   ` Pongracz Istvan
2008-01-11  9:12     ` Shaochun Wang
2008-01-11  9:22       ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-14  2:12         ` Iain Buchanan
2008-01-14 22:33           ` Walter Dnes
2008-01-11  9:35       ` Daniel Pielmeier
2008-01-11 10:06         ` [gentoo-user] " Michael Schmarck
2008-01-11 10:24           ` [gentoo-user] Install CD (was: Is GWN dead?) Dirk Heinrichs
2008-01-11  9:38       ` [gentoo-user] Is GWN dead? Dirk Heinrichs
2008-01-11  9:50         ` Dale
2008-01-11 10:07         ` Galevsky
2008-01-11 10:19           ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-11 10:38             ` Dale
2008-01-11 13:17               ` Qian Qiao
2008-01-11 13:35                 ` Dale
2008-01-11 13:46                   ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-11 14:14                     ` Qian Qiao
2008-01-11 23:18                     ` Dale
2008-01-12  0:16                       ` [gentoo-user] HTML vs. Text messages (WAS: Is GWN dead?) Hal Martin
2008-01-12  0:25                         ` Qian Qiao
2008-01-12 10:16                         ` Mick
2008-01-12 11:33                           ` Dale
2008-01-12 11:42                             ` Neil Bothwick
2008-01-12 11:59                             ` Mick
2008-01-12 13:26                               ` Dale
2008-01-12 14:38                                 ` Mick
2008-01-11 13:48                   ` [gentoo-user] Is GWN dead? Neil Bothwick
2008-01-11 14:02                   ` Etaoin Shrdlu
2008-01-17  7:34                 ` [gentoo-user] " Thufir
2008-01-17  9:09                   ` Dale
2008-01-11 10:45             ` [gentoo-user] " Galevsky
2008-01-11 13:40               ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-11 13:58                 ` Daniel da Veiga
2008-01-17  7:33                   ` [gentoo-user] " Thufir
2008-01-17  8:44                     ` Michael Schmarck
2008-01-18  7:36                       ` Thufir
2008-01-11 10:21           ` [gentoo-user] " Norman Rieß
2008-01-11 10:30             ` Daniel Pielmeier
2008-01-11 10:50               ` Galevsky
2008-01-11 11:30                 ` Pongracz Istvan
2008-01-17  7:31                   ` [gentoo-user] " Thufir
2008-01-12 19:59               ` James
2008-01-12 20:04                 ` Kenneth Prugh
2008-01-12 20:20                 ` Michael Schmarck
2008-01-12 21:12                 ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2008-01-17  7:27                   ` Thufir
2008-01-17  9:57                     ` Neil Bothwick
2008-01-11 19:09             ` Michael Schmarck
2008-01-11 19:19               ` Norman Rieß
2008-01-12 20:19                 ` [gentoo-user] " Michael Schmarck
2008-01-13  0:36                   ` b.n.
2008-01-13  8:39                     ` Pongracz Istvan
2008-01-13 11:30                   ` Norman Rieß
2008-01-13 15:03                     ` [gentoo-user] " Michael Schmarck
2008-01-13 15:39                       ` Norman Rieß
2008-01-11 22:14               ` [gentoo-user] " Hal Martin
2008-01-11 22:35                 ` Qian Qiao
2008-01-12  0:25                   ` Dale
2008-01-11 13:43           ` Michael Schmarck
2008-01-11 10:02       ` Michael Schmarck
2008-01-11 10:29         ` Galevsky
2008-01-11 19:08           ` [gentoo-user] " Michael Schmarck
2008-01-11 22:31             ` Galevsky
2008-01-11 22:52               ` Qian Qiao
2008-01-11 23:13                 ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-12  2:29                   ` b.n.
2008-01-12  2:27                     ` Daniel da Veiga
2008-01-12 11:50                     ` Neil Bothwick
2008-01-15 19:20                   ` Eric Martin
2008-01-15 19:48                     ` [gentoo-user] gentoo>=sabayon+genkernel Δημήτριος Ροπόκης
2008-01-15 20:48                     ` [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Is GWN dead? Alan McKinnon
2008-01-15 22:12                       ` Mark Knecht
2008-01-12 20:07               ` [gentoo-user] " Michael Schmarck
2008-01-11 11:41         ` [gentoo-user] Gentoo Install CD : was " Philip Webb
2008-01-11 13:35           ` Neil Bothwick
2008-01-14 10:41             ` [gentoo-user] " Thufir
2008-01-11 12:15         ` [gentoo-user] " David Relson
2008-01-11 13:25           ` Eddie Mihalow Jr
2008-01-11 14:09             ` Galevsky
2008-01-11 14:33               ` Qian Qiao
2008-01-17  7:19                 ` Thufir
2008-01-17  8:10                   ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-17  9:14                     ` Dale
2008-01-18  7:41                     ` Thufir
2008-01-17 10:00                   ` Neil Bothwick
2008-01-18  7:43                     ` Thufir
2008-01-18  8:25                       ` [gentoo-user] q: how to make gentoo site sync for greek users Δημήτριος Ροπόκης
2008-01-18 18:12                         ` Mick
2008-01-18 14:04                       ` [gentoo-user] Re: Is GWN dead? Alan McKinnon
2008-01-18 18:46                         ` Thufir
2008-01-18 19:06                           ` Lowe Schmidt
2008-01-20  8:38                             ` Thufir
2008-01-11 14:53               ` [gentoo-user] " Michael Schmarck
2008-01-11 15:54                 ` Daniel da Veiga
2008-01-11 19:03                   ` [gentoo-user] " Michael Schmarck
2008-01-11 16:34               ` Eddie Mihalow Jr
2008-01-11 14:38             ` YoYo Siska
2008-01-11 16:36               ` Eddie Mihalow Jr
2008-01-12 19:18             ` David Relson
2008-01-12 21:16               ` Qian Qiao
2008-01-13  8:53                 ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-13 11:47                   ` Norman Rieß
2008-01-13 12:35                     ` b.n.
2008-01-13 12:56                       ` Norman Rieß
2008-01-13 13:32                         ` Dale
2008-01-13 14:15                       ` Neil Bothwick
2008-01-13 15:00                         ` [gentoo-user] " Michael Schmarck
2008-01-13 15:35                           ` Dale
2008-01-13 16:35                           ` Neil Bothwick
2008-01-13 19:24                             ` [gentoo-user] " Michael Schmarck
2008-01-13 19:38                               ` Neil Bothwick
2008-01-13 20:24                                 ` Qian Qiao
2008-01-14 12:24                                 ` Michael Schmarck [this message]
2008-01-13 21:35                               ` Galevsky
2008-01-14  0:19                                 ` b.n.
2008-01-14 10:07                                   ` Galevsky
2008-01-14 16:54                                     ` b.n.
2008-01-14 16:53                                       ` Galevsky
2008-01-17  7:43                                     ` [gentoo-user] " Thufir
2008-01-13 15:02                     ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-13 15:41                       ` Norman Rieß
2008-01-13 13:58               ` Eddie Mihalow Jr
2008-01-14  5:16             ` Shaochun Wang
2008-01-14 11:24               ` Eddie Mihalow Jr
2008-01-11 14:01           ` Qian Qiao
2008-01-11 16:45             ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-12 20:52         ` James
2008-01-12 21:29           ` Mark Knecht
2008-01-13  8:56           ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-13  9:08             ` Dirk Heinrichs
2008-01-13 10:14               ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-13 20:44                 ` Dirk Heinrichs
2008-01-13 11:04               ` Neil Bothwick
2008-01-13 20:46                 ` Dirk Heinrichs
2008-01-13 20:55                   ` Neil Bothwick
2008-01-13 19:28               ` Etaoin Shrdlu
2008-01-13 20:51                 ` Dirk Heinrichs
2008-01-14  9:48                   ` Etaoin Shrdlu
2008-01-14 10:23                     ` Bo Ørsted Andresen
2008-01-14 18:47                       ` Benno Schulenberg
2008-01-14 21:46                         ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-13  9:06           ` Michael Schmarck
2008-01-13 12:06           ` b.n.
2008-01-13 14:17             ` Neil Bothwick
2008-01-13 14:53               ` [gentoo-user] " Michael Schmarck
2008-01-13 16:29                 ` Neil Bothwick
2008-01-13 16:46                   ` Ken Gypen
2008-01-13 18:03                     ` Pongracz Istvan
2008-01-13 18:22                       ` Galevsky
2008-01-13 19:03                         ` Pongracz Istvan
2008-01-13 19:26                           ` Galevsky
2008-01-13 19:15                       ` Mark Knecht
2008-01-13 19:26                         ` Neil Bothwick
2008-01-13 20:09                           ` Mark Knecht
2008-01-14  0:27                       ` b.n.
2008-01-14  7:22                         ` Pongracz Istvan
2008-01-14  9:17                         ` Neil Bothwick
2008-01-14  9:39                           ` Cocoy Dayao
2008-01-14 10:17                             ` Galevsky
2008-01-14 10:09                           ` Galevsky
2008-01-14 10:36                       ` [gentoo-user] " Thufir
2008-01-13 19:20                   ` [gentoo-user] Re: " Michael Schmarck
2008-01-13 19:24                     ` Neil Bothwick

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