[gentoo-user] monitor acting strangely when gdm starts

[gentoo-user] monitor acting strangely when gdm starts

[covici]

Hi.  I have a Nvidia GeFORCE 8400 gs and when I am using the text
console and frame buffer (uvesafb) things are OK, but when I start gdm,
the monitor acts as though it was disconnected altogether.  It works
under Windows through a KVM, so I am pretty sure the monitor is OK, but
I don't understand what happens when gdm starts.  I have
Nvidia-drivers-260.19.36 but even some earlier versions I try give the
same result.  Is my card going or what?

Any ideas would be appreciated.

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Re: [gentoo-user] monitor acting strangely when gdm starts

[Mick]

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On Friday 18 February 2011 10:35:15 covici@ccs.covici.com wrote:
> Hi.  I have a Nvidia GeFORCE 8400 gs and when I am using the text
> console and frame buffer (uvesafb) things are OK, but when I start gdm,
> the monitor acts as though it was disconnected altogether.  It works
> under Windows through a KVM, so I am pretty sure the monitor is OK, but
> I don't understand what happens when gdm starts.  I have
> Nvidia-drivers-260.19.36 but even some earlier versions I try give the
> same result.  Is my card going or what?
> 
> Any ideas would be appreciated.

Have you followed this?

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xorg-config.xml

and are you using KMS?

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Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] monitor acting strangely when gdm starts

[covici]

Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Friday 18 February 2011 10:35:15 covici@ccs.covici.com wrote:
> > Hi.  I have a Nvidia GeFORCE 8400 gs and when I am using the text
> > console and frame buffer (uvesafb) things are OK, but when I start gdm,
> > the monitor acts as though it was disconnected altogether.  It works
> > under Windows through a KVM, so I am pretty sure the monitor is OK, but
> > I don't understand what happens when gdm starts.  I have
> > Nvidia-drivers-260.19.36 but even some earlier versions I try give the
> > same result.  Is my card going or what?
> > 
> > Any ideas would be appreciated.
> 
> Have you followed this?
> 
> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xorg-config.xml
> 
> and are you using KMS?
I have not changed the config from working to non-working -- if it will
help I can post it.  I am not sure what kms is -- I use gnome as the
desktop.


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Re: [gentoo-user] monitor acting strangely when gdm starts

[Mick]

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On Friday 18 February 2011 18:37:43 covici@ccs.covici.com wrote:
> Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Friday 18 February 2011 10:35:15 covici@ccs.covici.com wrote:
> > > Hi.  I have a Nvidia GeFORCE 8400 gs and when I am using the text
> > > console and frame buffer (uvesafb) things are OK, but when I start gdm,
> > > the monitor acts as though it was disconnected altogether.  It works
> > > under Windows through a KVM, so I am pretty sure the monitor is OK, but
> > > I don't understand what happens when gdm starts.  I have
> > > Nvidia-drivers-260.19.36 but even some earlier versions I try give the
> > > same result.  Is my card going or what?
> > > 
> > > Any ideas would be appreciated.
> > 
> > Have you followed this?
> > 
> > http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xorg-config.xml
> > 
> > and are you using KMS?
> 
> I have not changed the config from working to non-working -- if it will
> help I can post it.  I am not sure what kms is -- I use gnome as the
> desktop.

Have a more considered look at the link I've given.  Check the kernel settings 
proposed there and take note of the disabling of u/vesa drivers.
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Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] monitor acting strangely when gdm starts

[covici]

Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Friday 18 February 2011 18:37:43 covici@ccs.covici.com wrote:
> > Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Friday 18 February 2011 10:35:15 covici@ccs.covici.com wrote:
> > > > Hi.  I have a Nvidia GeFORCE 8400 gs and when I am using the text
> > > > console and frame buffer (uvesafb) things are OK, but when I start gdm,
> > > > the monitor acts as though it was disconnected altogether.  It works
> > > > under Windows through a KVM, so I am pretty sure the monitor is OK, but
> > > > I don't understand what happens when gdm starts.  I have
> > > > Nvidia-drivers-260.19.36 but even some earlier versions I try give the
> > > > same result.  Is my card going or what?
> > > > 
> > > > Any ideas would be appreciated.
> > > 
> > > Have you followed this?
> > > 
> > > http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xorg-config.xml
> > > 
> > > and are you using KMS?
> > 
> > I have not changed the config from working to non-working -- if it will
> > help I can post it.  I am not sure what kms is -- I use gnome as the
> > desktop.
> 
> Have a more considered look at the link I've given.  Check the kernel settings 
> proposed there and take note of the disabling of u/vesa drivers.
I cannot do what the guide says -- I have no Nouveau in staging drivers
or anywhere it seems.   Maybe in newer kernels than the one I am using,
but I want to get this one back to working first.

One thing that I found in  my logs which might help is the following:

Feb 17 22:29:07 ccs kernel: NVRM: Xid (0001:00): 53, CMDre 00000000
00000080 00000000 00000005 00000005
Feb 17 22:29:49 ccs last message repeated 7 times

Thanks.


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Re: [gentoo-user] monitor acting strangely when gdm starts

[Mick]

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On Sunday 20 February 2011 14:20:56 covici@ccs.covici.com wrote:
> Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Friday 18 February 2011 18:37:43 covici@ccs.covici.com wrote:
> > > Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > On Friday 18 February 2011 10:35:15 covici@ccs.covici.com wrote:
> > > > > Hi.  I have a Nvidia GeFORCE 8400 gs and when I am using the text
> > > > > console and frame buffer (uvesafb) things are OK, but when I start
> > > > > gdm, the monitor acts as though it was disconnected altogether. 
> > > > > It works under Windows through a KVM, so I am pretty sure the
> > > > > monitor is OK, but I don't understand what happens when gdm
> > > > > starts.  I have
> > > > > Nvidia-drivers-260.19.36 but even some earlier versions I try give
> > > > > the same result.  Is my card going or what?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Any ideas would be appreciated.
> > > > 
> > > > Have you followed this?
> > > > 
> > > > http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xorg-config.xml
> > > > 
> > > > and are you using KMS?
> > > 
> > > I have not changed the config from working to non-working -- if it will
> > > help I can post it.  I am not sure what kms is -- I use gnome as the
> > > desktop.
> > 
> > Have a more considered look at the link I've given.  Check the kernel
> > settings proposed there and take note of the disabling of u/vesa
> > drivers.
> 
> I cannot do what the guide says -- I have no Nouveau in staging drivers
> or anywhere it seems.   Maybe in newer kernels than the one I am using,
> but I want to get this one back to working first.
> 
> One thing that I found in  my logs which might help is the following:
> 
> Feb 17 22:29:07 ccs kernel: NVRM: Xid (0001:00): 53, CMDre 00000000
> 00000080 00000000 00000005 00000005
> Feb 17 22:29:49 ccs last message repeated 7 times

Oh I see.  You've upgraded xorg, but not your kernel ... ?

If this is the case, then downgrade xorg-server back to 1.7 version.

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Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] monitor acting strangely when gdm starts

[Alex Schuster]

Mick writes:

> On Sunday 20 February 2011 14:20:56 covici@ccs.covici.com wrote:

> Oh I see.  You've upgraded xorg, but not your kernel ... ?
> 
> If this is the case, then downgrade xorg-server back to 1.7 version.

X.org 1.7 has been masked, and will be removed from the portage tree in
four weeks. Sure, you can keep the ebuilds in the local overlay, but I
fear this will lead to trouble eventually.

I will do this for a while, too, but one day I will have to deal with
it. This X stuff is really giving me great trouble. Or maybe I will just
give up and get another graphics card, my on-board Radeon HD3200 does
not seem to be supported well. But then, I am having trouble with X
since I am using Linux, there were only few, short periods of time when
X just worked.

	Wonko

Re: [gentoo-user] monitor acting strangely when gdm starts

[covici]

Alex Schuster <wonko@wonkology.org> wrote:

> Mick writes:
> 
> > On Sunday 20 February 2011 14:20:56 covici@ccs.covici.com wrote:
> 
> > Oh I see.  You've upgraded xorg, but not your kernel ... ?
> > 
> > If this is the case, then downgrade xorg-server back to 1.7 version.
> 
> X.org 1.7 has been masked, and will be removed from the portage tree in
> four weeks. Sure, you can keep the ebuilds in the local overlay, but I
> fear this will lead to trouble eventually.
> 
> I will do this for a while, too, but one day I will have to deal with
> it. This X stuff is really giving me great trouble. Or maybe I will just
> give up and get another graphics card, my on-board Radeon HD3200 does
> not seem to be supported well. But then, I am having trouble with X
> since I am using Linux, there were only few, short periods of time when
> X just worked.
Well, I could not even downgrade to 1.7 -- when I did and started gdm, I
lost my keyboard -- I had to login from somewhere else and do chvt to
get out.  Maybe this was because of hal or something, not sure.  I have
in my backups an ebuild for 1.9.2.902 which seems to work in preliminary
testing whereas 1.9.4 did not work at all with this kernel.

X stuff is sure quirky.


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Re: [gentoo-user] monitor acting strangely when gdm starts

[Mick]

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On Sunday 20 February 2011 19:44:53 covici@ccs.covici.com wrote:
> Alex Schuster <wonko@wonkology.org> wrote:
> > Mick writes:
> > > On Sunday 20 February 2011 14:20:56 covici@ccs.covici.com wrote:
> > > 
> > > Oh I see.  You've upgraded xorg, but not your kernel ... ?
> > > 
> > > If this is the case, then downgrade xorg-server back to 1.7 version.
> > 
> > X.org 1.7 has been masked, and will be removed from the portage tree in
> > four weeks. Sure, you can keep the ebuilds in the local overlay, but I
> > fear this will lead to trouble eventually.
> > 
> > I will do this for a while, too, but one day I will have to deal with
> > it. This X stuff is really giving me great trouble. Or maybe I will just
> > give up and get another graphics card, my on-board Radeon HD3200 does
> > not seem to be supported well. But then, I am having trouble with X
> > since I am using Linux, there were only few, short periods of time when
> > X just worked.
> 
> Well, I could not even downgrade to 1.7 -- when I did and started gdm, I
> lost my keyboard -- I had to login from somewhere else and do chvt to
> get out.  Maybe this was because of hal or something, not sure.  I have
> in my backups an ebuild for 1.9.2.902 which seems to work in preliminary
> testing whereas 1.9.4 did not work at all with this kernel.
> 
> X stuff is sure quirky.

Yes, especially between versions!  ;-)

To get your keyboard/mouse back with version 1.7 you may need to set up those 
pesky .fdi files and of course you will need to make sure that hal is running.
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Mick

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[gentoo-user] Re: monitor acting strangely when gdm starts

[walt]

On 02/20/2011 11:44 AM, covici@ccs.covici.com wrote:

> Well, I could not even downgrade to 1.7 -- when I did and started gdm, I
> lost my keyboard --

Whenever you install a new (up or down) Xorg server version you must also
rebuild *all* of the X device drivers e.g. mouse, keyboard, evdev, xf86-
video-whatever, synaptics, etc.

This is not obvious, so it's a very common problem.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: monitor acting strangely when gdm starts

[Dale]

walt wrote:
> On 02/20/2011 11:44 AM, covici@ccs.covici.com wrote:
>
>> Well, I could not even downgrade to 1.7 -- when I did and started gdm, I
>> lost my keyboard --
>
> Whenever you install a new (up or down) Xorg server version you must also
> rebuild *all* of the X device drivers e.g. mouse, keyboard, evdev, xf86-
> video-whatever, synaptics, etc.
>
> This is not obvious, so it's a very common problem.
>
>
>

I saved this when someone posted it.  I think it was in one of the news 
thingys too.

rebuild input drivers after xorg upgrade
emerge -1a $(qlist -I -C x11-drivers/)

That may help.

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: monitor acting strangely when gdm starts

[covici]

Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:

> walt wrote:
> > On 02/20/2011 11:44 AM, covici@ccs.covici.com wrote:
> >
> >> Well, I could not even downgrade to 1.7 -- when I did and started gdm, I
> >> lost my keyboard --
> >
> > Whenever you install a new (up or down) Xorg server version you must also
> > rebuild *all* of the X device drivers e.g. mouse, keyboard, evdev, xf86-
> > video-whatever, synaptics, etc.
> >
> > This is not obvious, so it's a very common problem.
> >
> >
> >
> 
> I saved this when someone posted it.  I think it was in one of the
> news thingys too.
> 
> rebuild input drivers after xorg upgrade
> emerge -1a $(qlist -I -C x11-drivers/)
> 
> That may help.
The saga contiues -- I downgraded to  1.7.7-r1 for xorg-server,
recompiled the keyboard, mouse and video drivers and still the monitor
just keeps switching between analog and digital, but only when gdm
starts.  OUtside of X the monitor acts normally.  I also  am using hal
again for the keyboard and that seems to work now.


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Re: [gentoo-user] monitor acting strangely when gdm starts

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Friday 18 February 2011 05:35:15 covici@ccs.covici.com wrote:
> Hi.  I have a Nvidia GeFORCE 8400 gs and when I am using the text
> console and frame buffer (uvesafb) things are OK, but when I start gdm,
> the monitor acts as though it was disconnected altogether.  It works
> under Windows through a KVM, so I am pretty sure the monitor is OK, but
> I don't understand what happens when gdm starts.  I have
> Nvidia-drivers-260.19.36 but even some earlier versions I try give the
> same result.  Is my card going or what?
> 
> Any ideas would be appreciated.

Xorg.0.log would be very helpfull.