From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8424D1384B4 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 2015 08:44:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5A1E721C05F; Wed, 4 Nov 2015 08:44:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gw2.antarean.org (gw2.antarean.org [141.105.125.208]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22BF4E086B for ; Wed, 4 Nov 2015 08:44:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gw2.antarean.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F36F1216FB for ; Wed, 4 Nov 2015 08:42:50 +0000 () X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at antarean.org Received: from gw2.antarean.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (gw2.antarean.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id c_zsaq8kfH1T for ; Wed, 4 Nov 2015 08:42:48 +0000 (%Z) Received: from data.antarean.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gw2.antarean.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D48B6120ABC for ; Wed, 4 Nov 2015 08:42:48 +0000 () Received: from andromeda.localnet (unknown [10.20.13.50]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by data.antarean.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6C4B64C for ; Wed, 4 Nov 2015 09:41:57 +0100 (CET) From: "J. Roeleveld" To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] printing problems Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2015 09:44:19 +0100 Message-ID: <2245320.iNVNcUGfvm@andromeda> User-Agent: KMail/4.14.8 (Linux/4.0.9-gentoo; KDE/4.14.8; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <5639BF9C.7040007@gmail.com> References: <20151102000812.GA1123@ca.inter.net> <6891148.3u2FQT2NXT@andromeda> <5639BF9C.7040007@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Archives-Salt: cff53bea-e163-4475-a22b-7294d9277c0f X-Archives-Hash: f1d139849239f8d961ff56539b6111a7 On Wednesday, November 04, 2015 02:19:40 AM Dale wrote: > J. Roeleveld wrote: > > On Tuesday, November 03, 2015 10:38:18 PM Dale wrote: > >> Alan McKinnon wrote: > >>> On 03/11/2015 18:05, Dale wrote: > >>>> I don't know if this will help or not but since you seem to be grasping > >>>> at straws, grab this one and hold on for dear life. For the longest > >>>> time, every time hplip, cups and friends were updated, I had to delete > >>>> and readd my printer. If I didn't, printing was not going to happen, > >>>> period. I might also add, I'd restart cups just to be sure, after the > >>>> delete and again after the readd. Once I did that, printing worked > >>>> like > >>>> a charm. If I didn't know better, I'd think the ink lasted longer too. > >>>> ROFL Just kidding but . . . . If nothing else works, may want to try > >>>> that. > >>>> > >>>> Oh, the last time I did the setup, I ignored cups completely. I went > >>>> in > >>>> as root and set up the printer using the hplip command. That was at > >>>> least a couple years ago. Since then, whenever I get ready to print, > >>>> and replace the dried out cartridges, it just works. I have a D4260, > >>>> currently out of ink, again. > >>>> > >>>> I think the actual command is hp-setup. I use KDE and that opens a GUI > >>>> to do the set up. Generally, it is just clicking next. It just seems > >>>> to figure out the rest itself, unless you have more than one printer > >>>> hooked up then you may have to select something. > >>>> > >>>> None of this may help but maybe one will. May be worth a shot. ;-) > >>> > >>> That's my experience too. I print very little by for ages now everytime > >>> a change was made to a printer or cups (even teeny minor ones), I'd > >>> delete and re-add all printers plus restart cups. > >>> > >>> Why does cups behave like this? Buggered if I know. I have an > >>> unexpressable opinion based on a certain fruity vendor who seems better > >>> at suing Samsung than actually writing code.... > >> > >> For some reason, cups just doesn't like HP, at least in my case. I've > >> had that problem for ages until a couple years or so ago. I always used > >> cups to setup and mange the printer. After getting enough of it one > >> day, I stopped cups. I then set up the printer with hplip. It took > >> less than a minute to do to, just keep clicking next for me. After I > >> did that, I don't think I have had to delete/readd the printer since. I > >> know I have updated both cups and hplip too, likely several times. No > >> telling what has been updated that they depend on. > >> > >> Maybe I got lucky or maybe just not using cups works. Odd thing is, > >> when I rebooted later, cups started automatically and the printer still > >> works and the printer shows up in cups. It's been working ever since. > >> So, kick cups out of the way, set it up using only hplip stuff and see > >> what happens. Heck, it just may work. :/ > >> > >> Now if I can just get Seamonkey and Firefox to stop defaulting to > >> English (United Kingdom) instead of English (United States) I'll be even > >> happier. o_O > >> > >> Dale > >> > >> :-) :-) > >> > >> P. S. I got my elcheapo ebay cartridges today. It still prints fine. > >> > >> :-D Oooo, pretty colors too. > > > > Same here. > > I use hp-setup to configure the printer once and then it "just works" > > without further thinking. (Apart from having to switch it on) > > > > I stopped using inkjet/deskjet/... printers years ago after having another > > one ruined by dried up ink. > > Currently happily using a laserprinter with a network-cable :) > > > > -- > > Joost > > I wish I could get me a laser printer. I'm dipping off into electronics > again and will have to make PCBs and they say laser printers work > better, although I have had a couple tell me ink jets work just as good > now, maybe better. Still, toner doesn't seem to mess up like cartridges > do. Just keep the stuff in a relatively dry spot and it's ready to go > when ever you need to print. I find laser printers to be more expensive initially, but considering the amount of pages I can print per toner cartridge, compared to what I used to get out of the same amount of ink (comparing monetary costs), I find laser printers to be cheaper. Inkjet only seems to work if I print a lot. For occasional printing, lasers are more reliable. But I only print on paper. I though PCBs are hard? How do you get those through a printer? > Glad to know that the way I set up my printer works for someone else > too. Hmmmmm. I had to rethink how I did it as it's been working without issue for a few years now. And I do update regularly. -- Joost