From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 930881382C5 for ; Sat, 20 Jun 2020 12:21:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 677B4E08E8; Sat, 20 Jun 2020 12:21:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-gw.thundermail.uk (mail-gw.thundermail.uk [149.255.60.75]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3F0C9E0875 for ; Sat, 20 Jun 2020 12:21:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailgw01.thundermail.uk (mail-gw.thundermail.uk [149.255.60.66]) by mail-gw.thundermail.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 102C6602B0B0 for ; Sat, 20 Jun 2020 13:21:27 +0100 (BST) X-ASG-Debug-ID: 1592655686-05541315ac2e6d820001-LfjuLa Received: from cloud307.thundercloud.uk (cloud307.thundercloud.uk [149.255.58.40]) by mailgw01.thundermail.uk with ESMTP id uLvawyG4XigFHp8C (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 20 Jun 2020 13:21:26 +0100 (BST) X-Barracuda-Envelope-From: confabulate@kintzios.com X-Barracuda-Effective-Source-IP: cloud307.thundercloud.uk[149.255.58.40] X-Barracuda-Apparent-Source-IP: 149.255.58.40 Received: from lenovo.localdomain (230.3.169.217.in-addr.arpa [217.169.3.230]) by cloud307.thundercloud.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7B773C1DC87 for ; Sat, 20 Jun 2020 13:21:25 +0100 (BST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=kintzios.com; s=default; t=1592655685; bh=vJZB7o7wCAOdjG+WZRT1BEc80+XGHutmWCMb1pgu6Hc=; h=From:To:Subject; b=ipEo2ndp81gL1KJ8Nw5FvRyyRftVrz4OJbzw5yHbe4iUpoB6dtO5fkikjlsIup0Gp KqoiSRi3tjIFPeTCiJ8wrGAJNopOOxB5mUfVKBZBz3SaCvk1tcQQ0q+WackIiT+8E9 Gq9+1nwrUaPOcZkR1rp4n/h16sJ59WkCovyh4E1Q= Authentication-Results: cloud307.thundercloud.uk; spf=pass (sender IP is 217.169.3.230) smtp.mailfrom=confabulate@kintzios.com smtp.helo=lenovo.localdomain Received-SPF: pass (cloud307.thundercloud.uk: connection is authenticated) From: Michael To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] R.pi 64 bit with 8/16 G ram? Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2020 13:21:07 +0100 X-ASG-Orig-Subj: Re: [gentoo-user] R.pi 64 bit with 8/16 G ram? Message-ID: <22436612.ouqheUzb2q@lenovo.localdomain> References: <9a39d717-562f-4e77-4ae2-ec19db874b35.ref@verizon.net> <9a39d717-562f-4e77-4ae2-ec19db874b35@verizon.net> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1961422.KlZ2vcFHjT"; micalg="pgp-sha256"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-PPP-Message-ID: <20200620122125.3083370.64081@cloud307.thundercloud.uk> X-PPP-Vhost: kintzios.com X-Barracuda-Connect: cloud307.thundercloud.uk[149.255.58.40] X-Barracuda-Start-Time: 1592655686 X-Barracuda-Encrypted: ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 X-Barracuda-URL: https://149.255.60.66:443/cgi-mod/mark.cgi X-Virus-Scanned: by bsmtpd at thundermail.uk X-Barracuda-Scan-Msg-Size: 2104 X-Barracuda-BRTS-Status: 1 X-Barracuda-Spam-Score: 0.00 X-Barracuda-Spam-Status: No, SCORE=0.00 using global scores of TAG_LEVEL=1000.0 QUARANTINE_LEVEL=1000.0 KILL_LEVEL=1.9 tests= X-Barracuda-Spam-Report: Code version 3.2, rules version 3.2.3.82683 Rule breakdown below pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- X-Archives-Salt: 0a474761-6687-4457-ba05-4cd8a13f0704 X-Archives-Hash: 4a11f6e9d719ceda7f7c39a9da82b941 --nextPart1961422.KlZ2vcFHjT Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Saturday, 20 June 2020 06:12:28 BST urpion@gmx.com wrote: > On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 01:36:29PM -0400, james wrote: > > Folks, > > > > Now, if/when this devices "is shipping", I can finally build out a 12VDC > > pickup camper gentoo centric "deep woods" mobile dev_shop. > > > > I kid you not: > > "Upton says the 64-bit image is for power users who want to map all 8GB > > into the address space of a single process. It's currently in beta and > > misses several key features, but once ready it will provide a 64-bit > > alternative to 64-bit versions of Ubuntu and Gentoo." > > > > GENTOO? Wonder who is behind that bit of work? > > > > > > > > https://www.zdnet.com/article/new-raspberry-pi-4-8gb-ram-model-out-now-for > > -75-plus-you-get-a-new-64-bit-os/?ftag=TRE-03-10aaa6b&bhid=291282154087693 > > 20614767878147805&mid=12853938&cid=2217268782 > > > > No kidding: > > > > "Even the Raspberry Pi beginner's guide had a reference to an 8GB > > variant, while the Pi 4's Broadcom BCM2711 chip supports up to 16GB of > > LPDDR4 SDRAM." > > > > 16 G on a pi? > > > > I'm all in. Can Anyone verify this offer? > > > > > > curiously, > > James > > Yeah! "deep woods" I like it. I wanna make a mobile 12V system too. There may be better set-top boxes for the total cost of RPi + peripherals you would need to run it, but I have not looked into ARM embedded options for some time now. For routers and high throughput miniservers I prefer amd64 embedded, which cope much better esp. with AES-NI hardware encryption processing. Anyway, according to the man behind RPi 16G is upper limit of what this BCM SoC can run theoretically, but: "There really, really isn't a 16GB package that we could use, or a way to use a pair of packages ..." https://www.tomshardware.com/uk/news/raspberry-pi-4-how-much-ram I would think even if fatter RAM modules could fit on the board, power supply and cooling issues would introduce other design constraints and also push the price point above the market segment RPi are targetting. --nextPart1961422.KlZ2vcFHjT Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. 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