From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Ri1nz-0000F7-Bl for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 10:41:19 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 163BA21C0A7; Tue, 3 Jan 2012 10:41:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-we0-f181.google.com (mail-we0-f181.google.com [74.125.82.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E970221C027 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2012 10:40:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by werm12 with SMTP id m12so9549486wer.40 for ; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 02:40:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:user-agent:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:content-type; bh=RDonO5Jtsu1kHb7EGgZYZsMrjLIREdAgU6WJhCfKWMM=; b=jAaVvED6RqAnkB+Y2pP7BQlQANPm7rnuwGIE/skEKHBJ2aAkV9d2+2G/fIF9+hZRDE 0jexd6eZoU5TuVtds27WKFqXCZyZgcaFfz6fJLK7NfguDnp0KAPXDeAWxWWxMS1CMqh7 5/8sxyrcmUwa4Pe+m2o2Okqs3ZhT71dSpQ53o= Received: by 10.216.131.145 with SMTP id m17mr33756981wei.21.1325587200119; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 02:40:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localnet (p4FC60F2A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de. [79.198.15.42]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q34sm40182580wbm.15.2012.01.03.02.39.58 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 03 Jan 2012 02:39:59 -0800 (PST) From: Volker Armin Hemmann To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2012 11:39:57 +0100 Message-ID: <2237696.klyhcrojpk@localhost> User-Agent: KMail/4.8 rc1 (Linux/3.0.7; KDE/4.7.4; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: <4F00B505.6050908@gmail.com> <4F0273C6.6060606@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Archives-Salt: 6b6df563-57e5-40b2-b056-ae4248ec39da X-Archives-Hash: 5f93b44b51ffe1e7b71dcf9fbbc510b4 Am Dienstag, 3. Januar 2012, 11:26:54 schrieb Lorenzo Bandieri: > > emerge smartmontools > > > > then when that is done, do this: > > > > smartctl -t long /dev/sd > > > > When you do that, it should print a message that tells when the test will > > complete. It is usually a 24 hour format thing too. This can run while > > the drive is in use too. Sometime after that time, run this command: > > > > smartctl -l selftest /dev/sd > > > > That should tell you the results of the test. If it says it passed, this > > is good. If it reports a problem, well it is not good. If you are > > lucky, it will be like a recent problem I had and reformatting will fix > > it. It was a weird problem but beats replacing a drive. > > I'm just wondering: can a tool like strace (or similar) be helpul in > diagnose the problem? > Maybe it could detect if konsole is trying to access a file that has > too strict permissions, couldn't it? Just wondering, I never really > used strace. > > Lorenzo a) we allready know where the problem hides - thanks to ~/.xession-errors your first stop when some X based app has problems. b) strace will drown you in output. c) in this case I have my doubts that the output would be helpfull at all (because I strace'd Konsole ;) ) w -- #163933