From: Volker Armin Hemmann <volkerarmin@googlemail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] USB Problems
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 01:35:39 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2225175.dLhMVbeAlM@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110612223030.2541a526@arcticwolf.myzen.co.uk>
On Sunday 12 June 2011 22:30:30 john wrote:
> On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 21:20:48 +0200
>
> meino.cramer@gmx.de wrote:
> > john <jdm@arcticwolf.myzen.co.uk> [11-06-12 20:52]:
> > > On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 16:45:38 +0200
> > >
> > > meino.cramer@gmx.de wrote:
> > > > john <jdm@arcticwolf.myzen.co.uk> [11-06-12 16:36]:
> > > > > Gents
> > > > >
> > > > > Whenever I insert external USB device my machine locks and I
> > > > > have to do a hard reset (sys req does not even work). I have
> > > > > tried this in a graphical environment and without. Machine
> > > > > boots up fine with USB keyboard and mouse but will not boot
> > > > > up
> > > > > with usb storage (memory stick
> > > > > - tried several)
> > > > >
> > > > > I have recently upgrade kernel to 2.6.38-r6 when this error
> > > > > started (approx). Hav also tried 2.6.38-r7 (which according
> > > > > to
> > > > > bugzilla should fix an issue similar to this) the error
> > > > > still
> > > > > happens.
> > > > >
> > > > > Any suggestions on kernel config options, debugging would be
> > > > > appreciated. And how to trap full error message.
> > > > >
> > > > > Error message alongs these lines
> > > > >
> > > > > Kernel panic not syncing - fatal exception in iterrupt
> > > > > ksoftirqd/1 Not tainted
> > > >
> > > > Hi John,
> > > >
> > > > may be this could help to track th eerror more closely:
> > > > Recompile the kernel with CONFIG_USB_DEBUG set.
> > > > If not already done, enable CONFIG_MAGIC_SYSRQ and
> > > > read about the available commands in the according
> > > > docs under /usr/src/linux/Documentation/.
> > > > This is a overall life saver in many other cases too.
> > > > But it may be a security hole also -- you can disable
> > > > it in /proc/ later.
> > > > If possible change /etc/fstab to mount the partition
> > > > to which logging will go with the "sync" option so
> > > > every log entry will go directly onto the bare metal
> > > > instead of a RAM buffer.
> > > >
> > > > Reboot into console mode (no X).
> > > > cd to the logging directory and
> > > > do a tail -f onto the logfile in question
> > > >
> > > > Insert the "USB stick of death" ;) and
> > > > see, whether you can see anything in the
> > > > tailed log.
> > > >
> > > > If not do the magic sysrq dance to sync hds,
> > > > remount readonly and finally reboot.
> > > >
> > > > Take a closer look into the resulting logs.
> > > >
> > > > Good luck!
> > > >
> > > > Nevertheless have a nice weekend!
> > > > Best regards,
> > > > mcc
> > >
> > > Thanks mmc,
> > > CONFIG_MAGIC_SYSRQ and CONFIG_USB_DEBUG set to y
> > >
> > > When I plug in USB device SYSREQ does not work. I have tested when
> > > system is normal and all ok with SYSREQ so USB device is locking up
> > > system completely.
> > >
> > > I have put sync in mount table but when device is inserted error log
> > > is not being produced (in /var/log/messages, etc). I may end up
> > > having to take a photo of error log(lol). Or there maybe some other
> > > way of catching error which Gentoo gurus may advise.
> > >
> > > I have tried 3 memory sticks and they all lock system up. These work
> > > on another PC using Arch and work on this PC dual booting with
> > > Windows. I have a usb hard drive which works ok so it is a memory
> > > stick only issue!!!!????
> > >
> > > Hmmm.
> >
> > Hi John,
> >
> > if sysreq does not work after inserting the usbstick then the kernel
> > stops working completly (the sysreq-code of the kernel is not
> > entered), which seems to be that something happening on very low
> > level (the problem not the sysreq-code of course... ;)
> >
> > Just another shot into the dark:
> > Do you have modularized all usb-related stuff? This also may help to
> > let the usb-sticks work correctly.
> >
> > Ah! Another thing: Insert the related modules into
> > /etc/conf.d/modules so that they get loaded in a very early
> > phase of the bootprocess.
> >
> > With modules loaded and with no usb-sticks as root inspect the
> > according modules with modinfo -p <modulename> to see, whether
> > there a additional parameters you may pass to the modules to get
> > an extra of informations or - better - to fix the issue.
> >
> > Modify under "Kernel hacking" in the kernel config the
> > "Default message log level" to see more.
> >
> > Furthermore there is a switch "Kernel debugging" with sub-options.
> > May be turning on these may also help to get closer to all evil ;)
> >
> > Last thing:
> > If there is nothing valueable stored on the usbsticks:
> > Try to reformat the usbsticks. Instead of putting a FAT32-fs on the
> > bare device, create a regular partition and create a Linux-fs
> > (reiserfs, ext2/3/4 or like that) on that partition.
> >
> > This may not be good idea in general, but - if it works - this would
> > give a hint, where to search next.
> >
> > Good luck!
> >
> > Best regards,
> > mcc
>
> Thanks Meino,
> Have recompliled USB as modules (ehci-hcd, ohci-hcd and usb-storage and
> load with /etc/conf.d/modules but still locks ups. Hope these are the
> right ones. I'll try scsi next.
>
> Also tried fdisk Linux file system and format ext3. But all to no avail.
> Still locking up.
>
> Have configure kernel hacking options as suggested.
>
> Error message as follows:-
>
> --------------------------------------------------------
> Bug: unable to handle kernel null pointer dereference at
> 0000000000000048
>
> IP [<ffffffff811ddb8e>]elv_queue_empty+0x12/0x27
>
> Oops 000 [#1] SMP
>
> last sys file: /sys/devices/virtual/bdi/8:32/uevent
>
> Pid: 1-, comm: ksoftirqd/1 Tainted: P 2.6.38-gentoo-r7 #4 MICRO-STAR
> MS-7388
>
> RIP 0010[<ffffffff811ddb8e7>] elv-queue_empty+0x12/0x27
> --------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> From my very limited knowledge, I would suspect kernel problem (ksoft)
> and irq (software interrupt perhaps). Please put me right if I'm out of
> order here. I'm Linux noobie
>
>
> Think I'll drop back to an older kernel to see if I'm still getting the
> issue as this may elliminate hardware issue.
>
> Unsure how to pass options to modules when loading. is this just done
> through /etc/conf.d/modules
>
> I like the error messages though Oops, RIP (someone has a sense of
> humour)
>
>
> Thanks for you help
>
> At least you learn while debgging
on lkml was just a reminder email of a bugzilla entry: panic on usb hdd.
So - it is a kernel bug. You will probably not find the culprit just building
models.
Use vanilla sources, do a git bisect, report findings on lkml.
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Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-06-12 14:30 [gentoo-user] USB Problems john
2011-06-12 14:45 ` meino.cramer
2011-06-12 18:45 ` john
2011-06-12 19:20 ` meino.cramer
2011-06-12 20:50 ` Dale
2011-06-12 21:32 ` john
2011-06-12 21:57 ` Dale
2011-06-13 5:22 ` john
2011-06-13 5:44 ` Dale
2011-06-14 5:38 ` john
2011-06-14 6:59 ` Thanasis
2011-06-13 6:42 ` meino.cramer
2011-06-13 11:00 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2011-06-12 21:55 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2011-06-12 22:04 ` Dale
2011-06-12 21:30 ` john
2011-06-12 23:35 ` Volker Armin Hemmann [this message]
2011-06-12 23:56 ` meino.cramer
2011-06-12 21:54 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2011-06-15 23:34 ` Peter Humphrey
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2011-06-14 7:18 JDM
2011-06-14 11:52 ` Indi
2011-06-14 15:50 ` Dale
2011-06-14 15:56 ` Thanasis
2011-06-16 7:30 JDM
2014-08-26 20:29 siefke_listen
2014-08-27 5:54 ` Alexander Kapshuk
2014-08-27 6:04 ` Alexander Kapshuk
2014-08-28 18:49 ` siefke_listen
2014-09-03 23:25 ` siefke_listen
2014-09-04 4:58 ` J. Roeleveld
2014-09-06 16:52 ` siefke_listen
2014-09-06 17:38 ` Alexander Kapshuk
2014-09-06 18:35 ` J. Roeleveld
2014-09-06 23:11 ` siefke_listen
2014-09-07 7:42 ` J. Roeleveld
2014-09-07 15:54 ` siefke_listen
2014-09-08 19:03 ` J. Roeleveld
2014-09-08 20:04 ` Neil Bothwick
2014-09-09 5:04 ` Stroller
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